Skip to main content

View Diary: Muslim grad student reports sexual harassment, gets reported as a terrorist (50 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Well, there's not a whole lot of info. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    johnny wurster, VClib

    She's suing the university- Did the harrassment occur on university controlled property?

    The student who she alleges harrassed her apparantly informed the FBI that she was a "terrorist". How is the University liable?

    I see one side of a story, and the narrative doesn't make any sense.

    Ya can say that my reaction is interesting, but I'd take a look at your sig first.

    •  Now, right there (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Calamity Jean

      I can see you're not even reading what I posted, so best of luck with your axe grinding, er, narrative.

      There is no belief, however foolish, that will not gather its faithful adherents who will defend it to the death. -- Isaac Asimov

      by tytalus on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:52:18 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  From the article you linked. (0+ / 0-)

        and I didn't suggest a narrative- only pointed out holes in what was presented.

        •  No, sorry (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          esquimaux

          You two made a hole where none existed.

          The student who she alleges harrassed her apparantly informed the FBI that she was a "terrorist". How is the University liable?

          You didn't get that from the article.

          One of the directors told her, "We have allegations that have been made against you and if you don't come with us, we will contact the FBI," according to the complaint.

          There is no belief, however foolish, that will not gather its faithful adherents who will defend it to the death. -- Isaac Asimov

          by tytalus on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:03:30 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  CBS link did not work for me (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          tytalus

          but here is an article on HP: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

          Bit off thread but regarding anti-Muslim prejudice, I see a certain pol across the pond, David Stone, is upset that the Royal British Legion is not selling poppies in some areas of the UK because of Muslim objections.  Muslim organizations deny the allegation and point out that many Muslims and Africans died in WWI fighting in Allied ranks.  Just cited as another example that the insanity continues apace this long after 9/11

          •  It's the underlying theme (0+ / 0-)

            anti-muslim fear, hate, leading to stuff like this...is that David Stone or Stones? I found some results on a Stones, interesting but, well, yuck.

            It's that post 9/11 effect that makes this discrimination story believable to me, though I may not wholeheartedly believe it all happened, yet.

            There is no belief, however foolish, that will not gather its faithful adherents who will defend it to the death. -- Isaac Asimov

            by tytalus on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 12:33:18 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

    •  the university is liable for (7+ / 0-)

      doing nothing after the situation was reported to them - and to many of them - all in charge.

      the lack of response to this situation by those who were liable for her safety will be determined in the lawsuit.

      oh.

      for those that think filing a lawsuit for discrimination is simple, it isn't.  finding legal representation isn't.  it is costly and not something that is done at the drop of a hat.

      this case has many aspects that are going to be fascinating to follow.  the main issue for me is what liability does the university hold toward the protection of its students.

      other interesting issues are as follows:

      what constitutes neglect.  what level harassment is acceptable before the university steps in to prevent it.

      what liability would the university hold had she been physically assaulted?

      this isn't simple, nor should it be taken lightly.

      Is GlowNZ back yet?

      by edrie on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:06:36 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  They're only liable if the harassment is so (0+ / 0-)

        severe that it eliminates the meaningful educational opportunities of the student harassed, if the school knew about it, and if they acted w/ deliberate indifference.

        From a quick scan of secondary literature, it's tough for a plaintiff to show all of those elements.

        •  i think having a false claim that the student is (6+ / 0-)

          a terrorist is extreme, don't you?

          any visit by the school security and intimidating a student and threatening that student with being taken to the fbi and subsequently having the fbi pay the student a visit is, imho, extreme and would subject ANY person to grave mental distress.

          and why did this happen? over the student's religion.

          civil rights violation? that, too!

          Is GlowNZ back yet?

          by edrie on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 01:05:18 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  The article says she had to stop attending (4+ / 0-)

      classes because the harassment was so intense. Then she failed her classes. Then the university dismissed her. Now an attorney has taken the case because he sees grounds for liability. In what way does this narrative not "make sense"? Clearly you feel the need to leap to the defense of the university. That must be because universities are so powerless in our society and are always being unjustly accused of wrongdoing. Good on you, Mighty Mouse.

      Painting the ivory tower beige.

      by ProfessorWho on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:18:18 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site