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  •  Many people in America have said... (0+ / 0-)

    unpopular things.  Yet...they were still right.

    I wonder if there were blogs in the 1850s how many donuts you would have given to an Abolitionist blogger?

    Or, how many donuts would you have given someone who spoke out against the anti-German harassment during was quite popular you know and promoted by the US government.

    The way this person here has been treated by this community does not surprise me, but he simply doesn't deserve it.

    You're wrong and I think deep down you know it.

    •  David, here at DKOS we honor veterans (4+ / 0-)
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      This site was founded by an Army veteran who is proud of his service to our country, and respects our veterans and men and women in uniform. Anyone can be passionately opposed to any war, past or present, and find thousands of people here who will support their view and nearly everyone will respect their opinion, even if they don't agree. And we all know that some Americans in uniform have performed criminal acts and war crimes. However, we will not tolerate blanket statements such as all Marines who served in combat are "serial killers". Here at DKOS we respect all veterans and honor their service. We provide emotional, financial and material support for our fellow Americans who serve us today, particularly those in combat theaters. Some of the most passionate critics of our current conflicts are the most active members of our DKOS community in organizing support for our troops in the field. We honor our men and women who are veterans and those who serve today. That is a core community value here.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 08:00:36 AM PST

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      •  Yet, I am a veteran... (1+ / 0-)
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        and some here fail to honor my right to speak out against what I've seen with my own eyes and experienced with my own mind.

        I don't think what you mean "honor" I do believe you mean "adulate."

        These are two different things.

        •  David - you can write whatever you want (2+ / 0-)
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          What people react negatively to are blanket statements that tarnish all who serve. It was calling all Marines who have served in combat "serial killers" that put the diary over the top. That was unacceptable.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 09:20:02 AM PST

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      •  Right, but it isn't the core mission to be an (0+ / 0-)

        apologist for the current mission and actual practice of the military, along with the government for the past forty to fifty years.  The idea that discussing the actual practice as opposed to parades, celebrations on military related holidays, benefits and perks is all we do.

        We memorialize the fallen, the recent and the ones we hear about.   We do very little of anything else connected with the war. It is a low interest item here.

        we allow  shocking things to pass or avoid discussing incentives given to encourage more of the same  activity, keeping the analysis confined to peripheral short not talking as if this were a "forbidden subject" and leave the business of war alone as business as usual.

        When was the last time we had an Afghani or an Iraqi commenting or posting who still lives in the country and has lost family due to actions by the USA in conducting operations where they live?  There are millions of them.   How many have we had telling us about what happened from their perspective?  The irony for me is it is the families of our own active duty people who are most concerned and also see the possible downsides for everyone who comment the most trenchantly.  Others are just not that connected or interested with of course  a few heroic exceptions.

        If you think that you and a bunch of other people can just show up on Wall St, camp out and have any effect whatsoever.... well, you will be run off in 20 minutes., you will leave town having wasted your effort 6/18/11.

        by BeeDeeS on Tue Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30:29 PM PST

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    •  Except, this diarist is wrong. (0+ / 0-)

      The unpopularity of this diary has nothing to do with his facts, since he hasn't presented any.  It has to do with his opinions, which just happen to be garbage.

      "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.." - John F. Kennedy: Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961. We are the 99%.

      by IndieGuy on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 09:51:12 AM PST

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