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  •  This diary is misleading. So what if (14+ / 0-)
    that's the threat I would like to hear Kathleen making.
    ?

    The fact is that you chose to leave out this crucial piece of information - that the exchanges have the power to enforce pricing by shunning companies that raise prices too much - in order to subject us to yet another ACA-bash.

    Isn't there something more productive to do?  How about defeating Romney, so we'll have a chance at expanding the (lifesaving!) ACA someday?

    •  While we are all waiting for those exchanges (17+ / 0-)

      and the controls on costs they will bring, just keep in mind that the health insurers are the world's experts at gaming regulations and have never failed to do so to their benefit.  I think the reality is that optimism is unrealistic in this scenario.  Indeed, they are already gaming the MLR "requirement."

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 06:24:56 AM PST

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      •  While We are Waiting... (5+ / 0-)

        In Canada (British Columbia) a single person pays $60/month (maximum rate) for health care if their income exceeds $30,000.  A sliding scale of subsidies for those with less income, down to zero cost if you are broke.  Likewise, a couple pay $109/month, and a family of three or more pay $121/month.  Drugs cost 1/3 to 1/4 of the cost here in the US.
        The ACA is a cruel joke which only serves to ensconce the pedestal which the insurance companies hold.  President 1% and Mittens let us down with that joke.  Keep waiting lol...

    •  I disagree -- it's very subjective who gets in and (1+ / 0-)
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      who gets out. There's no rule that if you have X unjustified rate increases, you will be kicked out of the exchanges.

    •  Obama on Romneycare (1+ / 0-)
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      •  I'm not sure why you think this clip helps (1+ / 0-)
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        It's the President, explaining to Matt Lauer that core parts of the ACA are straight out of GOP policy shops. It's the President explaining that it's a centrist, perhaps even center-right piece of legislation.

        That may be an appealing explanation to people who think that those are effective ways to manage insurance premium increases, but it does nothing to sell me on the usefulness of the ACA in managing costs that context.

        The President is very open to embracing conservative policies, I get that. Don't ask me to applaud it.

        I listen to wingnut radio so you don't have to!

        by Sharon on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 04:00:05 PM PST

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    •  Quite. (2+ / 0-)
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      grrr, Fonsia

      I can't understand why on a site dedicated to electing Democrats, a diarist and many, many commenters would lie by omission about one of the most important pieces of legislation.

      By all means argue that the mechanism with the exchanges won't work if that is what you believe. But to leave out any reference to it at all and make it appear that the administration left themselves nothing but pleading with bullies is plain dishonest.

      www.thepeoplesview.net - Where Pragmatic Progressives are now Regrouping - Clear thinking liberals welcome

      by ultraviolet uk on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 11:50:01 AM PST

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