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  •  Now I Know it Was a Good Choice To Leave Wisconsin (6+ / 0-)

    I was born in Ashland and raised in Hayward Wisconsin. I'm part Ojibiwa Indian and spent the first four years of my life on The LCO Indian Reservation. I moved to Hayward when my father came home from WWII. He moved my mom and I to Hayward and started working in a bodyshop.

    Hayward was a Republican town and my mom was a Democrat. My father was always part of the GOP. I grew up to be a Democrat and started at the age of 16. I felt out of step in school because my contemporaries seemed to go with the flow.

    I have always marched to a different drummer so I felt more at home here in Minneapolis MN. I volunteered in two presidential campaigns and was a delegate to two Democratic Minneapolis conventions.

    It's a mess in Wisconsin. I pray that it gets better.

    •  Many parts of Wisc. (2+ / 0-)
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      are very Republican. A lot of people don't know that. I was born and raised in Madison, as were my parents and their parents not far from here. I remember being stunned to find out as I reached my 20's and 30's just how many distant friends and relatives in my home state weren't as progressive as my roots trained me to be.

      Formerly, I think we were more complex; we would and did vote on both sides of the aisle locally and nationally. The division has been slowly entrenched since the '80's and most especially the '90's. I remember going to my in-laws in Elkhorn and watching an aunt sit by the oven, cigarette smoke funneling into the hood vent, listening to Rush Limbaugh and she was so fired up. It was my first introduction that we had a heavy division. That was 1992.

      But this division and the subsequent uprising are everywhere. Though you are glad to be where you are the obvious lesson is it's quite tenuous. Rightwing takeover of media "entertainment" industry. 911, the Bush years and everyone purchasing the ear of their constituents has me raising my children in what is quite literally Orwellian times.

      My point is, it's everywhere.

      Wisconsin, reclaiming its State motto: Forward!

      by One bite at a time on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 09:29:07 PM PST

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      •  Todays Republicans don't resemble (3+ / 0-)

        Republicans of even 20 years ago.  Many reasonable and responsible people have left the GOP in disgust at the racism, religious intolerance, and homophobia.  Republicans were always for Big Business, but did comprehend the need for social programs.  Now all they do is strip from the 99% to give to the 1%.

        There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

        by Puddytat on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 09:34:36 PM PST

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        •  True, (5+ / 0-)

          Republicans have changed and I think it's not too biased for me to say Democrats have not changed quite as much though I do believe just about everybody is "bought" since our current system relies on that. That's the real reason Russ is not in office....he wasn't "bought" and didn't play that political game.

          I wonder, Puddy, what that tally is for Republicans and Indies who adhere to many conservative ideas but can see through Walker? I have lots of exposure in my line of work to laborers who were raised to detest unions. And then they hear that their hunting land is about to be spoiled. What then?

          The big tipper in this recall election is dependent on two things, IMO: 1) those that stayed home will not stay home 2) Those that voted for Walker and may support some of his ideas can't in good conscious keep him in office.

          BTW, the Repubs called me last week about my opinion regarding the recall. She didn't like me much. But when I brought up his anti-environment stance (see upcoming bills this week) she quite literally exhaled in frustration at me. The environmentalists are, as my brother says, the quiet yet steadfast folk working behind the scenes; they actually have a lot of strength and pull. I think we'll see that shortly.

          Wisconsin, reclaiming its State motto: Forward!

          by One bite at a time on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 09:46:01 PM PST

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          •  As I said in my piece, so many (3+ / 0-)

            people who voted for Walker were shocked.  It's been a huge wake up call.  

            Of course, our rotten media isn't covering this as anything other than a political pie fight and RW radio talkers are just praising Walker to the hilt, so it's personal experience from seeing the cuts in action (like when folks sent their kids back to school in September) or just word of mouth from co-workers, neighbors and the like that's getting the information out there.

            Some people are just simply ideological.  They vote Republican because they always did, they buy into the bigotry, or they're worried that someday they'll be a millionaire and don't want to pay more taxes.  

            The BFD in my book is when Walker lost farmers.  Farmers!  They were always a reliable GOP voting block.  When I saw those farmers driving their tractors around the Capitol, I knew it was over for Walker.

            There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

            by Puddytat on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 10:14:59 PM PST

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