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  •  No comments doesn't mean anything (4.00)
    Say now. Just because a blog doesn't have comments doesn't mean anything in and of itself. Talking Points Memo and Billmon are examples of good blogs without comments. Dealing with comments takes a lot of time and effort. Look at the problems Talk Left and Eschaton have with trolls.

    Blogs with comments have a different feel than blogs without them but I wouldn't say one is superior to the other. Just different approaches, like the difference between newspapers and magazines.

    Wingnut blogs tend to link to each other to reinforce their arguments, whereas lefty blogs like to link to facts and data to reinforce their position. As was pointed out, wingnut blogs that do have comments censor them to stifle dissent and keep the state-sponsored messaging going. Lefty blogs that have comments typically just worry about trolls and the quality of the free flow of ideas.

    GOP: Party before Country
    Puppethead

    by puppethead on Sat Apr 09, 2005 at 11:26:32 AM PDT

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    •  re: stifle dissent (none)
      just like dubya!

      The only second term dubya deserves is 20 to life!

      by Street Kid on Sat Apr 09, 2005 at 11:31:42 AM PDT

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    •  Bloggers (4.00)
      Say now. Just because a blog doesn't have comments doesn't mean anything in and of itself. Talking Points Memo and Billmon are examples of good blogs without comments. Dealing with comments takes a lot of time and effort. Look at the problems Talk Left and Eschaton have with trolls.

      And I'd say it's a credit to most lefty bloggers that they are willing to take the time to deal with the problems that comments present in order to foster an open discussion.

    •  It's about open-mindedness (4.00)
      I hope KOS will make this point in interviews because I do think it's a litmus test for objectivity, polarization, fairness, etc.

      In fact, I think it's not a bad idea to start an effort to distinguish between "read-only blogs" and "interactive blogs", with the latter being assigned a lot more credibility provided they don't wield inappropriate facist rules over their contributors.

      Yes, if you implement an interactive blog you have extra maintenance and trolls to deal with, but it's a small price to pay in return for a lot more credibility.  Interactive blogs have so much more depth to them. Blitzer says something stupid? Someone will post a link in a comment to the video. Paris Hilton's cell phone gets hacked? Someone posts a link to the content.. the kind of stuff you may not always be able to publish officially behind the site's moniker, so it's not merely about criticism... it's about adding necessary depth to an issue, which is something that very few right-wingers have an interest in, and the same can be said for all the online mainstream media.  If CNN really wanted credibility, they would allow comments on their news stories, but then we all know what would happen there... but it would be fun to watch.

      In reality, an interactive public blog is the news/information version of peer-to-peer network sharing scheme, not unlike what Napster was for music.  The alternative is yet another polarized pundit talking to himself in public.

    •  good point puppethead (none)
      I love TPM. Wish it had comments though (and wasn't that awful narrow format on the screen, jeez).

      However, I view TPM as more like The Note.

      It would be cool if CNN had a comments section. ABCNews.com does. So there is a longstanding precedent that works for a major news org.

      Actually before the blogs took over, I was an abcnews board junkie.

      •  TPM will be adding comments in future (none)
        If I'm not mistaken, Josh is planning to launch a parallel site that will have comments. Read that on TPM a week or so ago.
        •  Parallel (none)
          Some years ago, before the New Yorker had letters or a table of contents, some magazine (maybe Spy magazine) provided the unhappy with an opportunity to vent. A free-for-all that allows readers to debunk or cheer for Powerlies and other blogs that don't allow comments might be fun.

          Republicans are poor stewards of America's government.

          by freelunch on Sat Apr 09, 2005 at 06:03:52 PM PDT

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    •  Talking Points Memo (none)
      will have a comment section. They are renovating the site.

      To thine own self be true - W.S.

      by Agathena on Sat Apr 09, 2005 at 07:23:05 PM PDT

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      •  ah-HAH! the A-list news analyst challenges kos (none)
        josh marshall is tremendous, and how weird that it;s taken this long to add comments.  it will be interesting to see if, after 6 months, it makes a dent into dk traffic.

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