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  •  Hmm, is it eternal torment in Hell? (0+ / 0-)

    That's what apostates to Christianity get.  Infinite suffering.

    Or is it somehow worse than infinite suffering?

    •  Worse... because hell is fiction... (0+ / 0-)

      ... the penalty for apostasy in Islam (when taken literally as it is commanded) is death.

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      by EricAllenBell on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 10:44:10 AM PST

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    •  Apostates to Christianity (2+ / 0-)
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      used to be burned at the stake. Thomas Aquinas believed they should be killed, he wrote as much in his Summa. You need to do more research Bell instead of me educating you on this. There are still vigilante acts of apostates from Christianity being killed, just this past year in Egypt a convert from Coptic Christianity was killed for becoming Muslim.

      •  "Used to be" indeed... not so much for Islam... (0+ / 0-)

        ... What you are pointing out about Christian violence is accurate but it is also an aberration.

        You fail to see the larger picture about how violent Islam is in the present day by comparison.

        Islam is a bloodthirsty movement that is highly superstitious and anti-intelligence - deep intelligence that is - the kind which allows one to stray from the form and find out for oneself.

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        by EricAllenBell on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 02:52:18 PM PST

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        •  You still haven't addressed today's xtian violence (1+ / 0-)
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          the fact that there are vigilante Christians killing and targeting apostates today. Or the other facts that every act of violence committed in the name of faith has been carried out by all religions, not only Muslims.

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          You say it is "accurate" but also an "aberration." Do you see that you are not making any sense?

          Your whole deck of cards that Islam is some unique violent movement today has been exposed as faulty. Any and all ideologies can be bloodthirsty, religious or non-religious.

          I know this puts a hole in your crusade against all religion but that's what happens when your facts and args are weak.

          •  I have addressed it... (0+ / 0-)

            Here's an analogy you might be able (or willing) to understand.

            Pot is a drug.  Alcohol is a drug.  Both can be dangerous.  One of those two drugs causes more automobile accidents, more health problems, more domestic violence, etc. than the other.

            Can you wrap your head around this?

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            by EricAllenBell on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 03:36:38 PM PST

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            •  There is empirical evidence (0+ / 0-)

              supporting the fact that pot is less harmful than alcohol. Your analogy fails, as pot has not killed even "one" person. Where as Xtianity, etc. have killed many TODAY.

              Where is your empirical evidence? You rely on Wiki and youtube clips, that's not evidence.

              I cite evidence. Prof. Kurzman and OTHERS have proven that Islamic terrorism as a WHOLE is not a serious threat to the world, especially the West. You have a better chance of being killed by lightning than a terrorist.

              I cite evidence showing that more non-Muslim Americans, all the way from Mormons to Atheists by far support the killing of innocent civilians in some situations than Muslims in every single country. The only exception being that atheist rank lower than Palestinians.

              When we went to war and Don Rumsfeld was receiving memos with Biblical verses on them, was that a benign thing? An aberration as you say? Is over 1 Million fuckin' dead Iraqis an aberration? Who was cheerleading that? Evangelicals and some new atheists like Hitchens? Is that an aberration?

              That's not human rights my friend, that's a complete fail of logic.

              •  Like an inkblot - you are seeing what you want to (0+ / 0-)
                There is empirical evidence supporting the fact that pot is less harmful than alcohol. Your analogy fails, as pot has not killed even "one" person. Where as Xtianity, etc. have killed many TODAY.

                Um, you sort of missed the point there.  You see "pot" was supposed to represent Christianity while alcohol was supposed to have represented Islam.

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                by EricAllenBell on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 04:01:46 PM PST

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              •  The number one victims of Islamic terrorism... (0+ / 0-)

                ... which is rampant in this world, are other Muslims.

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                by EricAllenBell on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 04:03:02 PM PST

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