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  •  Hollywood fucked up (26+ / 0-)

    YouTube happened, took the world by storm, and Hollywood was caught completely flat-footed. Now they understand the implications suggested by the existence of YouTube. And now they want to drive aggregators like YouTube out of existence so that studios can devise their own (presumably pay-per-view) alternatives.

    This isn't about piracy. Hollywood has never taken appropriate action to stem piracy, for risk of making sales of units more difficult to carry out.

    This is about turning the internet into a pay-per-view media brothel. It's about as ethical as Simon Bar Sinister's famous desire to own "all the water in the world."

    •  This. (13+ / 0-)
      [T]hey want to drive aggregators like YouTube out of existence so that studios can devise their own (presumably pay-per-view) alternatives.
      This is strictly about cornering profits and instituting control of information flow. And for what it's worth, no one should respect any arguments from any so-called number-crunchers in an industry that gave us Hollywood accounting (oops, guess that Wikipedia link won't work until tomorrow – gee, that's sure a convenient site). Industry numbers for copyright infringement "losses" are grossly inflated because they count all downloads as lost revenue; the reality is that even if they can completely implement SOPA/PIPA or other convoluted schemes, they won't realize but a tiny fraction of their claimed "losses" because a large chunk of the people doing the previous downloads won't want or be able to purchase them outright.
      •  I'm going to disagree somewhat (16+ / 0-)

        Piracy really is an issue. Yes, the numbers are all over the map, but it doesn't mean piracy doesn't exist. Look, I know people who run small distribution houses who are losing their shirts over this.

        The problem is they're grasping at straws, following the lead of the studios, hoping this legislation will change all that.

        It won't. The tragedy is its almost impossible to convince them otherwise.

        •  Do you know of any smaller studios (4+ / 0-)
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          that 'get it'? There are plenty of examples of musical acts that understand that you'll attract a lot more flies with honey than vinegar, but I can't think of any movie studios...

          We already have death panels. They're called insurance companies.

          by aztecraingod on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 10:12:07 AM PST

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        •  I didn't say it wasn't (2+ / 0-)
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          I read your diary. I certainly didn't say piracy doesn't exist or isn't an issue. It's now a valid, central concern for any content creator. I agree that this legislation won't do a thing to stop copyright infringement and opens the door for a boatload of abuse. But I see no contradiction between that and distrusting official MPAA/RIAA industry numbers, which really are ludicrous.

          This really boils down to a question of how much the mechanism of copyright is worth to society (and how much it costs in restriction of the public domain), and that points to solutions in social structure, not technology.

        •  Great point (1+ / 0-)
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          The problem is they're grasping at straws, following the lead of the studios, hoping this legislation will change all that.

          but... there seems to e an element of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  The anti-SOPA/PIPA forces (many of whom are charged with profiting from off-shore traffic) offer no real solution other than Hollywood needs to change its business model without understanding the Hollywood business model (any better than Hollywood understands the Internet). There is a misconception that Hollywood and the Recording Industries business models are analogous. The Exhibitor portion of the equation continues to be the pipeline detour in the Hollywood equation. It is not as simple as Hollywood needs to make it product available on iTunes. People forget about the entire movie theater/exhibition lobby.

          Like you, I'm in the industry and find it frustrating that something cannot be done about sites like The Pirate Bay - which profited some $3 million dollars last year while operating our of the Seychelle Islands. It should come as no surprise that we could both go there (Pirate Bay, not the Sechelles!) right now and dowload "Castle".

          Yours is one of the most thoughtful diaries I've seen on the topic - here or anywhere else. I'm curious what you think of this DGA statement from yesterday -http://www.dga.org/...

          •  Response (4+ / 0-)
            The anti-SOPA/PIPA forces (many of whom are charged with profiting from off-shore traffic) offer no real solution other than Hollywood needs to change its business model without understanding the Hollywood business model

            So? That's their problem. By your "logic", it's unfair of me to complain about having my pocket picked unless I do the legwork to find the pickpocket some other means of acquiring money.
            I'm curious what you think of this DGA statement from yesterday

            As usual, I started by doing a quick scan to see if any blatant lies jumped out at me. Sure enough....
            Rogue sites legislation provides the exact same due process protection provided to every individual who appears before a U.S. Court

            Nope -- the bills empower accusers to demand search traffic diversion, DNS removal*, and interdiction of financial transfers upon accusation, prior to any sort of due process.

            *Supposedly, this is being amended out. I'll believe that when I see it.

            After that, I went to TL:DR (Tawdry Lies; Didn't Read) mode.

            On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

            by stevemb on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 01:33:20 PM PST

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            •  Thanks for playing (1+ / 0-)
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              So? That's their problem.

              No it's my problem as someone who is employed in Hollywood. And it's the diarist's problem for the same reason.

              And there was a distinct reason I asked the diarist's opinion - this diary has shown an understanding of the mixed emotions about SOPA/PIPA and piracy.  Your comment does not.

          •  DGA post is full of straw man arguments... (0+ / 0-)

            It's frustrating.

            •  "Why unions shouldn't support SOPA" (0+ / 0-)
              The Writers Guild of America West has realized some of the implications of SOPA, and although the group is still concerned about piracy, has since come out against the bill in meetings with members of Congress:

              They discussed concerns with the bill's implications for competition and an open Internet. Although the WGAW strongly supports combating piracy, the competition, First Amendment, and due process concerns the bill creates must be addressed.

              But other, larger, unions remain behind the legislation. I can't be the only person who was surprised to see several top unions, including the AFL-CIO (American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations), SAG, and AFTRA, on the list of organizations supporting SOPA. I'm not sure how SOPA or PIPA would help the actual members of these unions, other than further enrich their employers' CEOs. But the AFL-CIO stands up for it.
              http://www.pbs.org/...?

        •  No. They're not. (0+ / 0-)

          Just because "Piracy" exists and someones business is failing does not mean that "Piracy" is the cause of that failure.

          It's precisely the people who dig indie productions who will pay for content they value.

          I've seen to many people go to concerts and buy CDs despite the fact that they've already "pirated" every track on them to buy into the idea that small artists are being harmed.

          Fear is your only God.

          by JesseCW on Wed Jan 18, 2012 at 09:35:06 PM PST

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