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  •  Great minds think alike Grover! (0+ / 0-)

    Did you see my comment about movie violence?

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    by rebel ga on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 12:44:45 AM PST

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    •  I just saw it. I tend to agree (2+ / 0-)
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      Although I do think piracy is a concern. The problem is that most of it happens in foreign countries where American courts have no jurisdiction. If they did, current copyright infringement law would be effective. Since they don't, SOPA won't be enforcable against the gross violators  either.

      And despite my background in education, I don't think movies have to be educational, or even that we should strive for that. The brain deserves down time and play. Chic flicks, comedies, thrillers and similarly "empty" movies can be fun. One of my favorite movies is Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure: it's a stupid movie that makes me laugh every time I watch it. Isn't that good enough reason for a movie to exist? That it makes people laugh? (I also like Wayne's World which unlike Bill and Ted can't even begin to pretend to impart any knowledge).

      So, for all the documentaries I watch, all the histories (my favorite) and similar dramas,  I can't possibly insist that we should make all movies educational.

      I just like  The Incredibles  because i adore the little son with ADD.... And yes, I, TreeHugger Extreme, prefer this movie more than Wall-E which has a powerful environmental
       message that I appreciate.  

      :)

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      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not.

      by grover on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 02:23:56 AM PST

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      •  Oh, that explains why I haven't heard (1+ / 0-)
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        so about much it.

        Everyone's seen the bootleg movies people sell on the street, but they're such poor quality no one wants them. So I way wondering whee is all this piracy?

        The problem is that most of it happens in foreign countries

        I kinda meant educational in a broad sense. Like not to make people dumber kind of way.There's so much mus-information out there and I think the violence outweighs the comedies and romance movies.

        Sure there are good movies out there, but Hollywood movie executives could do a lot better bringing quality film to the people.

        Speaking of children's movies. A couple of years ago I worked at a movie theater for about 3 days. Grueling, tedious work, for min wage. Charlotte's web was playing. Every kid came out crying. You're familiar with the story line I suppose? Even like 11 yr olds were upset!

        What kind of children's story is that to make them cry? And at about $7.50 each too! Yes I know sometimes children's movies are sad, but I wouldn't take my child to see one.

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        by rebel ga on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 07:27:52 AM PST

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        •  I don't think souless corporations CAN (1+ / 0-)
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          bring quality to movies or to anything else for that matter. It is beyond belief to assume that a CEO who is probably sociopath could even understand quality.

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          by glitterscale on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 07:56:15 AM PST

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        •  I think I missed Charlotte's Web, the movie. (1+ / 0-)
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          but I studied chikdren's literature and CW was something I studied at length. I wonder why it was so sad at the end, except Charlotte dies and that's part of life? EB White ended on an up note, sort of, but I'm not inherently inclined to protect kids from the fact that people die.

          In fact, if people died horrible deaths every time they were shot in movies, I'd be pleased.

          Director Kevin Smith says the MPAA and FCC has it all wrong: they  (via the ratings process and censorship guidelines)  encourage showing less blood and gore regardless of how much shooting and bombing and explosions directors show. So kids don't learn that violence has truly awful consequences.

          He says that if the movie accurately shows how obscenly bloody and destructive violence is, give it a G or PG rating. If it shows the sanitized version of violence, give it an R.  The whole system needs to be flipped over because right now, our youngest kids don't learn that guns and bombs actually hurt people.

          Then we sit on the sidelines  and complain that kids are dulled to violence. Yeah, there's some of that, especially -- I think -- in video game players. But pay attention to how often people are shot and there's little or no blood, certainly, no flying gray matter (or other body parts), and how often people survive direct hits.

          Do I want this stuff beamed into my living room? No. But you couldn't pay me to watch stuff like Criminal Minds anyhow. If it were more realistic, perhaps many other Americans would realize what a truly, obscenely violent show it is and object as well-- or at the very least, not let their kids and teens anywhere near it.

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          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not.

          by grover on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 10:58:36 AM PST

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