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  •  Great review! Can't wait to see it! (9+ / 0-)

    I'm a total nut for WWII airwar.

    One quibble:

    One thing the film doesn't mention - is that the actual record of the 332nd Fighter Group was that they Never Lost a Single Bomber they were charged with protecting.  NOT ONE.

    The didn't lose a single bomber to enemy fighter attack. Fighters can't protect against Flak, after all.

    "'club America salutes you' says the girl on the door/we accept all major lies, we love any kind of fraud"--The Cure, "Club America"

    by Wheever on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 09:06:27 AM PST

    •  I believe the poster corrected this myth (2+ / 0-)
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      about the Tuskegee Airmen not losing a single bomber to enemy fighters.

      It is a myth; totally untrue and too bad because the TA's record is fine as it stands and does not need to be inflated by a lie.

      My father-in-law was a B-17 pilot who flew missions out of North Africa and Italy with the 12th Air Force. (He's still alive and doing well, just had his 88th birthday).

      He flew some missions where the TAs were assigned to protect them and said, yes, they lost some bombers to enemy fighters. He says the Tuskegee Airmen were no better and no worse than any other fighter group assigned as their protection.

      The real problem, he says, was the AA--the flak. In the cliche of they day, he said it was normally so thick you could walk on it.

      His own record is pretty stellar--never lost a single crewmen on their missions although he and his co-pilot had to crash land their B-17 once after the two port side engines were shot out, with the feathered props creating enough drag that the plane flew sideways. Try landing like that, sometime. He did and it earned him the DSC.

      No one pays attention when you show up at a demonstration with a latte in one hand. When you show up with a molotov cocktail, then they pay attention.

      by wheeldog on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 01:34:56 PM PST

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      •  Wow! (0+ / 0-)

        Thanks for telling me about your father-in law! A B-17! I'm in awe.

        I am deeply envious of people with family members who served in the second world war--especially those in the flying corps. I would have loved nothing more when I was a kid than to have heard stories.

        My father was 4F, but I did have a cousin that served with Chennault in China, but as staff. Oh, and a cousin at D-Day, but he never wanted to talk about it. Such an astonishing generation.

        "'club America salutes you' says the girl on the door/we accept all major lies, we love any kind of fraud"--The Cure, "Club America"

        by Wheever on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 09:13:54 PM PST

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