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  •  Unbelievably ill-informed (1+ / 0-)
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    Geek of all trades

    Who do you think is distributing foreign films?  Nearly every foreign film shown in America gets there because of Hollywood coin.

    So what the hell are you going to boycott?

    •  If only Hollywood is boycotted, (1+ / 0-)
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      I think they'll get the message.  Even better than if all movies are boycotted.  And even if Hollywood gets some money from foreign movies.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 01:33:23 PM PST

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      •  Your fantasy view of "Hollywood" is just that (0+ / 0-)

        a fantasy. That Hollywood of the 1940s is long gone. These are multinational, multibillion dollar international megaliths.

        Your beloved French films that are shown on American screens are probably distributed by Sony Classics, a Hollywood company owned by the Japanese. And, to top it off, those French films that make pennies at your local art house are financed on the back of the profits from the Spiderman franchise.

        •  I was thinking of German and Iranian (1+ / 0-)
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          movies, as it happens.  Do you think Hollywood finances the Iranian movie industry?

          I recently watched the DVD of Paul Verhoeven's Black Book.  In the commentary, he complains about how hard it was to get financing (all European) for it.

          I recently watched the DVD of Peter Kosminsky's The Promise.  I read on the Internet that he couldn't get any deal for U.S. (or German) financing.

          The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

          by lysias on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 01:59:57 PM PST

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          •  Finances? Sometimes. (0+ / 0-)

            Distributes? Yes.

            The highly praised Iranian film "A Separation" will be released in the United States by Sony Pictures Classics.

            "A Separation" was funded, in part, by grant from ASPA (Asian Pacific Screen Awards) Academy Film Fund and the Motion Picture Association (the international counterpart to the dread MPAA).

            So - short answer. The Iranian film that just won the Golden Globes and is shortlisted for the Oscars was funded, in part, by the international counterpart to the MPAA.

            Newsflash - there are no national film industries anymore. It is all international.

            •  If there's no Hollywood, what is this whole (1+ / 0-)
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              thread about?  Who are those moguls that are pressuring politicians?

              By the way, the DVD's of The Promise that I watched, I had to order from England.  I don't think any American distribution is at work there.

              And distribution is one thing, production is another.  

              As I said, if people boycott just Hollywood movies, I think Hollywood will get the message.

              The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

              by lysias on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 03:24:53 PM PST

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              •  There is no Hollywood (0+ / 0-)

                at least in the traditional sense. And therefore you cannot boycott Hollywood movies... at least not in any numbers that would do anything but make you feel better about yourself.

                I didn't mean to imply that Hollywood was part of EVERY foreign film. They are a part of the cog in the international machine of film production. Perhaps not The Promise (though the director has worked in Hollywood and made "Hollywood movies") but certainly Iran's "A Separation" - an irony that you conveniently ignored in your response.

                Nonetheless, let's celebrate great foreign films instead of worrying about "hollywood" product. And while we're at it, don't miss "Summer Hours" (L'Heure d'Ete), a truly amazing movie from Olivier Assayas which may or may not be available in the US except perhaps via download. I saw it in Hong Kong and cant recommend it highly enough.

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