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  •  I haven't seen so many newly registered users (2+ / 0-)
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    sapelcovits, itskevin

    since the de-lurker thread at SSP!!

    They say that Dentists have the highest suicide rates of all professions. Adding in the fact that I am a Democrat in Indiana to that ratio then it is probably a miracle that I am still alive.

    by drhoosierdem on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 10:11:44 PM PST

    •  New Users--Me and Bob Marx , this diary viral (1+ / 0-)
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      I am one of those new users.  I received this article in an email from someone more involved in the local Dem party here on the Big Isl.   It seems to be going viral.  Most of the old time party activists still do their email chains and spaming.  I read them from time to time.  When i read the comments of all these pundits who claim they have a clue on how this race will play out with no Mention of Big Isle Bob.  I had to sign up.

       Didn't Mazie Hirono win this seat with only 21 Percent of the vote?

      Like I said it will be fun to watch!  

      •  At DKE, we take a look at the big picture (1+ / 0-)
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        and limit our look to "serious" candidates, aka people with sufficient money and/or stature to have a reasonable chance at victory.

        We refer to those candidates who don't meet the standard as "some dudes". Marx's only political qualification is as a member of the Oregon state legislature -- over 30 years ago. His run seems like a lark of an older dude. We see no evidence that Marx has any serious funding.

        Marx seems like a "some dude" to me.

        In addition, we push for "more" Democrats -- and in districts that support it, like HI-02 (at PVI D+14), "better" Democrats.

        Marx isn't even as progressive as conservadem Ed Case on gay marriage. As evidenced by his answers to Honolulu Civil Beat (noted by user sapelcovits), he's regressive on the "Plan B" option for minors.

        At a PVI of D+14, there's no reason for HI to go backwards. From what I see, Marx would be a move backwards.

        But we generally have open minds. If you have different evidence on any of this, show us. (Yes I've read the bobmarxforcongress.com website, and don't see any such evidence.)

        (p.s. By "Puna Farmer's Market," do you mean the Maku'u farmer's market?)

        "I hope; therefore, I can live."
        For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

        by tietack on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:25:20 AM PST

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        •  Hadn't even realized he (2+ / 0-)
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          served in the Oregon state legislature! Thanks for that bit of information. (Gloria Tinubu v2.0?)

          21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), hopeless Swingnut

          by sapelcovits on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 10:28:01 AM PST

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        •  The Big Picture--Marx might just see it (1+ / 0-)
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          I am hopeful to get a response from the Marx Campaign on his Obamalike positions on Emergency Contraceptives and being Pro Civil unions with full Equality and Not for Same sex Marriage "at this time".

            Since Progressive Maize won with such a overwhelming Percent of the vote..... 21%  and this is an OPEN primary that many republicans will vote in.  (with no mark of Primary affiliation by there names, ever)  moving backwards is a real possibility.  Many Rs will cross over because they do not even have a republican Presidential Primary!!  

          Sticking with Obama on the RU486 and Same sex marriage issue (thou i think Marx is left of Obama Here if I understand him right)  In a district were Obama still enjoys a 70% favorability and the Social conservative Mufi is the favorite might just be good strategy.  

          Is that a big enough picture for you?  

          •  How's Marx's fundraising? (0+ / 0-)

            Per Honolulu Civil Beat, both Mufi and Tulsi raised 200k+ this past quarter.

            Unless he's in the same fundraising league, it sounds like he might be relying on an Alvin Greene-like event (the SC "some dude" who beat the serious D candidate in the primary back in '10).

            And any serious D today is on guard for such an event. As concerned as I am about Mufi, and mistrusting as I am about Tulsi, I recognize that they are serious candidates.

            I see no evidence that Bob Marx is a serious candidate.

            (btw, than you for responding)

            "I hope; therefore, I can live."
            For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

            by tietack on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 11:16:20 AM PST

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      •  Thank you for the explanation (4+ / 0-)
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        sapelcovits, tietack, Furtheron, itskevin

        It's nice to know my article's getting some attention from local politicos (and flattering!  I don't have any particular knowledge, I just did some Googling and checking out of what other people were saying).  

        (Full disclosure: I actually wondered if you might be Justin Marx (Bob's son) since I saw he linked to the article on Facebook:

        http://www.facebook.com/...)

        I didn't intend my article to be an overview of the whole primary field (or even necessarily an overview of everything about Tulsi Gabbard) but mostly a look at one thing about her campaign that I think is both analytically unusual and potentially troubling for progressives or LGBT advocates.  But I don't really mind people who use the substance of my article as a springboard to discussing their preferred candidates.  I would actually like a substantive response from Tulsi Gabbard fans, but the ones who have commented so far haven't done their candidate any favors.

        26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-12(now)

        by Xenocrypt on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 10:28:25 AM PST

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        •  your getting warm!! (0+ / 0-)

          Bob Marx's son was here for a few weeks this xmas training Bobs staff on VAN.  He is a seasoned organizer from Hilo now living in Ohio.   There will be quite a few of Obama's Organizing for America ex staffers who are tired of the snow  in Ohio joining his team soon.  You can bet it will be a grassroots campaign for an insurgent Candidate.  Sound Familiar

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