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  •  I believe in voting as an informed citizen. The (15+ / 0-)

    problem I have faced over the last 20-plus years of residency in the deep-Red wilds of "East Of The Cascades" Orygun has been that I am so often on a lonely quest in that respect.  Nevertheless, I have always felt that I NEED to vote to get chips on the table, and that has sometimes meant that I would be voting for candidates that probably don't espouse views that perfectly reflect mine, but I get all that because the only candidate who would perfectly reflect my views would be me. Since I would never in my wildest dreams contemplate going there,  I have always chosen to vote for candidates that at least demonstrated that they were at least conversant with my beliefs (if not fellow travelers in my political journey).  Having lived through far too many Republican administrations (with the occasional Republican control of Congress thrown in for good measure), I will vote for the Democrat quite simply because I have not over the nearly 60 years that I have been alive on this earth met a Republican who has my interests at heart. This doesn't mean that I will be happy with the Democrat for whom I voted, but I've seen the other side of that coin and the long-term damage that can be done and I don't ever want to revisit that place...

    "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    by Jack K on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 10:06:06 PM PST

    •  We had a few down here (4+ / 0-)

      back in the day; Congressman Charles Gubser was a decent sort (and his office helped our family cut through VA red tape and get my dad admitted after his heart attack), and Pete McCloskey was very vocal against the Vietnam War. But these days I don't think you can safely vote for any Republican solely because no matter how sane they might sound, they're still going to support the Republican batshit leadership.

      Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes (modified)

      by Cali Scribe on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:12:18 AM PST

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      •  It's the Borg mentality of the R's. (3+ / 0-)
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        Friend of the court, DianeNYS, Jack K

        Whatever the guys in the front lines lay down, they pick it up and run with it.

        Hence the apparently lobotomized crowd tonight, made of up values voters from the Olde South - who gave a standing ovation to an adulterer.

        Newt was outraged and the crowd cheered.

        I'm not even sure that batshit crazy is a strong enough term for most of their base anymore.


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        by Angie in WA State on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:57:03 AM PST

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        •  They respond to the idea... (0+ / 0-)

          ...that the media is persecuting them, instead of the fact that Newt basically did much of what he was accused of.  If I had to name one big cause of the decay in Republican candidates, its simply that they care more about defending their leaders from persecution by the so-called liberal media, rather than determining whether the charges against their leaders are actually true.

          The major difference is that in one case you overlook your candidates flaws as a way of defending your political power, and in the other case you grow to deal with those flaws or leave the matter alone in order to avoid embarrassment.

          Simple question: In the years since Republicans successfully urged the disempowering of workers and unions in the Midwest, what has happened to those states economies?

          by Stephen Daugherty on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:55:10 AM PST

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    •  I was in the same boat (2+ / 0-)
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      Angie in WA State, Jack K

      Grew up in Milton-Freewater Oregon, doorbelled for George McGovern.
      I had dogs set on me, and kind, well meaning folks tell me, "If your daddy knew you were doing this, he would be so disappointed."
      My favorite was a friend who had a framed color portrait of Richard Nixon hanging in the entry way. When he resigned, they hung it with black crepe.

      An ancient evil. An immortal warrior. The Tears of Ishtar by Michael Ehart

      by IsraelHand on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:02:18 AM PST

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