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  •  he mentioned IP before bootleg drugs (0+ / 0-)
    The same thing goes, I'm guessing, for imitation designer handbags and so on. In some fringe cases, it may about "protecting the consumer." But it's really mostly about protecting profits for corporations.

    Like it or not, intellectual property is a huge aspect of the economy. You know—jobs. And not just those of people working for designer handbag companies. The fact that these bills would have provided certain companies from taking measures way out of proportion to the problem doesn't negate the fact that there is a problem that requires addressing. This goes way beyond pop songs and the crap hollywood churns out.

    And i hope by saying that you don't get the impression that i'm some kind of IP fanboy. I've been using Linux & FreeBSD for over a decade, for example.

    Second, like other SOPA/PIPA backers Franken completely ignores the most objectionable aspect of the legislation - the blocking of websites and creation of an internet blacklist. This is the central aspect of SOPA and by far the most troubling and radical part of it, but you will notice this is never, ever mentioned in any pro-SOPA editorializing.

    First, i didn't get the impression that Franken was "editorializing" in this letter. Did you?

    Second, his decision to pull his support for the bill kinda suggests that he now has some idea of the nastier implications of the bill. You could argue that he doesn't have a clue and is just covering his ass but i think Franken is a little bit smarter than to mindlessly vote one way or another simply to pander to his constituents.

    All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

    by subtropolis on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:35:41 PM PST

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    •  What I'm saying is that (4+ / 0-)
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      Franken, like other proponents of the legislation, frames it as protecting consumers.

      But cmon. It's not as if consumers are flooding Congress with requests to be protected from evil file sharing sites and overseas pharmacies. The MPAA, Nike and Big Pharma are the ones asking favors here. And of course Franken and his friends in the Senate know this perfectly well.

      And yet, he writes:

      ...these criminals are also putting Minnesota families in danger by flooding our nation with counterfeit products – not just bootleg movies and software, but phony medications and knockoff equipment for first responders.

      Reading it a second time, this is actually kind of hilarious. When was the last time a family was put "in danger" by bootleg movies and software?

      Also, I disagree with you that he "now has some idea of the nastier implications of the bill." To the contrary, his last minute decision to pull support seems only to have occurred because the entire Democratic party decided to back away from it. I give Franken zero credit for any bravery or leadership on this. He had all year to read the bill and figure out what it did.

      •  Maybe you are not aware of the problem of (0+ / 0-)

        counterfeit drugs being sold online but it is a problem.

        Do you even know what the bill does? Have you even read it?

        Right man, right job and right time

        by Ianb007 on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:21:16 AM PST

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        •  Obviously I have read up on it (1+ / 0-)
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          But does it matter at this point? Your side lost:)

          •  Yeah tell that to your Megaupload buddies. (0+ / 0-)

            Anti piracy legislation will get passed.  It's only a matter of time before this happens you can rest assured.

            I find it really disheartening the callous uncaring  attitude you and others have towards the theft of IP that you would gloat about it.  Really?

            Right man, right job and right time

            by Ianb007 on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 09:50:20 AM PST

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            •  It's just something I've noticed (0+ / 0-)

              with SOPA advocates. You seem to assume that no one could possibly oppose the legislation once they understand it, and that opponents must be either uninformed or pro-piracy.

              When in reality most of us are simply concerned about the effects on the web community and civil liberties. Just because protecting IP is a worthy goal, doesn't mean we have to endorse every proposed solution, no matter how much collateral damage it will have.

              Judging by the number of legislators who suddenly expressed reservations and backed away from SOPA/PIPA this week, the only ones who didn't understand the bill and its implications were those in Congress.

        •  I venture that far fewer people are harmed (0+ / 0-)

          by counterfeit drugs bought over the Internet than are harmed both physically and financially by legally purchased and essentially unregulated "dietary supplements" and "herbal remedies" which are widely advertised and available everywhere, including the Internet. SOPA/PIPA would have no impact on that, and it's a far larger problem.

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