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  •  We are taught to value success over fairness (17+ / 0-)

    Power over decency, wealth over equity. And our politics reflects that. Deep down, we've come to believe that success defines one's worth.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 11:41:08 AM PST

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    •  Excellent succinct evaluation. (1+ / 0-)
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      It deserves more space--or at least more notice, since it probably can't be said better than you already have.

      Democrats promote the Common good. Republicans promote Corporate greed.

      by murasaki on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:18:23 PM PST

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    •  The one thing I would say to this (4+ / 0-)

      is that we've allowed wealth to be defined as success, and that is the key problem. I do not feel like valuing success over other things is bad, it's what we classify as success is the problem. I love being successful, and when I'm successful, it benefits others. The key is I do not consider my bank account the measure of a job well done.

      There are only 2 things in life I believe about religion: There could be a God and I'm sure as heck not him.

      by Irixsh on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:33:31 PM PST

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      •  I would argue that success, however it's measured (0+ / 0-)

        is simply not a valid contender for the most important value in civilized society. Fairness, equity, justice, freedom--these all have it beat hands down IMO.

        Success is desirable, aspirational and satisfying, but it's not essential.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 05:32:09 PM PST

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    •  Actually, that is not true for most of us (2+ / 0-)
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      This may be taking a liberty with your comment, but I read your use of the word "equity" to mean integrity.  Equity can mean both money and equality.  I infer that you mean the second one, and it seems to me the individual attribute that gives rise to equitable outcomes is integrity.  

      As a former small businessman, I know several "entrepreneurs" who regard integrity as a character flaw.  I also worked for decades in non-profit corporations serving state and local governments, where the same values were held by the crooks, consultants, and lobbyists.  So, I agree that there are significant segments of our nation that absolutely hold that feral view of capitalism.  Unfortunately, they are often prominent people, able to define the culture of their organizations.

      However, I am reasonably sure that the majority of us regard that view as an abomination.  I don't know about you, but I certainly don't value success over integrity.  I think that the effort to define Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich needs to focus on that feral aspect of their character, because the vast majority of voters are repelled by it.  We have been addressing that flaw in Romney's character, but really, a sociopathic disregard for integrity and the absence of an empathy gene mark Gingrich the same way.  

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