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  •  Allright so here it is... (14+ / 0-)

    Many of us have been watching this Republican train wreck trying to figure out what kind of candidate could possibly manage to please all of GOP's totally whacked out factions.

    What is starting to become really clear to me is that the only one in the bunch that is capable of pulling that off is the biggest, fattest (because it upsets him when people say that), nastiest and most erratic of all of the contenders - Newt Gingrich.

    I am not one of the camp that thinks that that is good for the Democratic Party's chances in 2012 or the country.  Primarily because Gingrich is as we saw the other night a master of deflection and deception.  Not only is he personally dangerous, but he is going to take this race to a whole outer space level of delusion and crazy in a serious time during this country's history where we need real political debate and solutions.

    A crazy megalomaniac who likes to say that he is four and his wife is five is not the kind of person who should be given a party's nomination to be their Presidential candidate in this country.

    •  The southern repub base ain't the gen pop (2+ / 0-)
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      so chill on that concern. We don't dare hope he is the nominee anyway because it is so unlikely, although we may have to rethink that if Romney is really on course to get 26% tonight.

    •  Let's be honest (1+ / 0-)
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      This kind of activity isn't good for either party or for the nation's democratic electoral process in general.

      Let's not forget the Obama campaign did the same thing during the 2008 primary race, shipping hundreds of Chicago area students and young adults to Iowa for their state party caucus.

      Neither side should be doing this and both sides are guilty.

      "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

      by Betty Pinson on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 11:45:24 AM PST

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      •  No, that's not true. The only students at the (6+ / 0-)

        caucuses were students who were registered to vote. When you check into a Democratic caucus they check against the voter registration lists. Perhaps Obama provided bus transport for Iowa students who were enrolled in Illinois colleges, but they had to be voters to caucus.

        I was at the 2008 caucus - it didn't need any bus load of ringers to arrive at the decision we made.

        Something outsiders don't realize is that a caucus, unlike a primary, is face to face - total strangers would stick out like a sore thumb.

        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:18:53 PM PST

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      •  Link? (0+ / 0-) longer in SF.... -9.00, -7.38

        by TFinSF on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:49:12 PM PST

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      •  That dog won't hunt Betty. (0+ / 0-)
      •  I really do not think that there is a (0+ / 0-)

        comparison here.  I think that the standout for Romney is that the ratio of locals to the kids was too low so as to make them highly apparent.

        Romney doesn't have the rock star mojo that Obama did and that's just the fact of the matter.  It serves no real purpose to even compare the two because we really are talking apples and oranges if we do.

        If you start to see Obama's fan base waning and the team has to start busing people in now, then we could compare the two, but I just don't see how Obama 2008 relates to Romney 2012 at all.  Much like I do not think that Obama 2008 could be reasonably compared to Obama 2012 for a whole host of reasons.

        •  The trick helped Obama in early 2008 (0+ / 0-)

          It helped jump start his primary campaign at the first state primary - Iowa.  Without it, its questionable whether he would have been able to build the momentum to the same level post - Iowa.  

          Sure, its a trick, its legal. It was clever of Obama to use it in 2008, but his supporters shouldn't be hypocritical in criticizing Romney for doing the same thing.

          There's plenty of criticism that can be effectively leveled at Romney, but this kind of thing smacks of hypocrisy.  

          "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

          by Betty Pinson on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 02:59:07 PM PST

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          •  I think that a lot of people are more (1+ / 0-)
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            surprised that at this point Romney feels the need to astroturf.  That's my take on the story anyway.  We are all after all watching a race unfold in real time.  If you asked most people last weekend who would win today - most people would have said Romney.

            Anyway, I think that you've got more important points to make most of the time than this one is.  But that's just my opinion.

    •  Much as I'd love to see (0+ / 0-)

      a serious thorough debate on the relative merits of Rep and Dem policies (especially economic), which I'm sure we could win, a part of me just gets a kick out of watching Newt parade his buffoonery.

      When civilizations clash, barbarism wins.

      by Allogenes on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:05:15 PM PST

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      •  Buffoonery which is starting to be (1+ / 0-)
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        taken seriously.  Brings back painful memories of the 90s for me including sitting on a train next to a woman who was so full of venom for Clinton the summer before the 1994 election that I sat up all night in the cafe car instead of sitting next to here.  I had no clue where she got all of her totally insane ideas at that time.  Shortly afterwards I learned that Newt was spearheading that campaign.  I'd really rather not live that again.

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