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  •  The roots of what Newt does is racist as hell. (30+ / 0-)

    He, and those like him, may deeply believe in the mythos you describe. But the heart of that belief is a deep racism.

    Their philosophy legitimizes that very racism, and attempts to recast it as something benign.

    It is, as you say, profoundly delusional at best. In Newt's case, I would add that it is also deliberate. He knows damn well who he is speaking to. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is absolutely playing to every racist fear and stereotype.

    That MSM is NOT calling him out on this in no uncertain terms is infuriating.

    If corporations are people, then I want to see some birth certificates and talk to their parents.

    by Onomastic on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 08:35:10 AM PST

    •  Re your point about the MSM, I caught (9+ / 0-)

      some of MTP and couldn't believe my eyes or ears.
      Well actually, I could believe as it was vintage ass-licking Gregory.
      The newt done bullied them into line, to the extent that they needed bullying.

      •  You're a far braver woman than I, Joan. (5+ / 0-)

        I refuse to watch the supposed Sunday Morning News shows, especially MTP.

        Gregory's overly exaggerated sense of importance, coupled with his appalling lack of journalistic integrity, makes me want to throw things at the tv.

        There's a couple football games today that we need the tv for. :)

        If corporations are people, then I want to see some birth certificates and talk to their parents.

        by Onomastic on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 09:08:52 AM PST

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      •  And this is what the Rethugs like Newt (4+ / 0-)

        do to the media.  They bully them into NOT doing their jobs.

        Not that they have done their jobs in a long time now.

        "No, I'm being judged against the ideal. Joe Biden has a saying: 'Don't judge me against the Almighty, judge me against the alternative." --President Barack Obama, 12/11/11

        by smoothnmellow on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 09:51:17 AM PST

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    •  Agreed. (16+ / 0-)

      However, the MSM is calling him on it.  Sort of.  If a moderate or conservative news pundit even has to mention the words "racism" or "dog-whistle", that's bad.  And several have done so in Gingrich's case, though almost certainly for the wrong reasons: to help Romney.

      The MSM is freaking out about Gingrich right now.  By contrast,  at the end of the ABC debate before NH, their talking heads were essentially declaring the race over, with one guy even going so far as to say the Fat Lady was warming up her vocal chords.  A week later, ABC is airing the Marianne Gingrich interview to try and stop the bleeding, and several pundits outside of MSNBC are wondering out loud whether the "Juan Williams moment" was a dog-whistle to South Carolina racists.

      This whole Republican primary freak show is making me sick.

    •  He's playing "Lost Causeism" to the hilt (3+ / 0-)
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      Every last simmering and boiling resentment of the self-imagined (and sometimes genuinely) put-upon angry white older male is being exploited by this masterful demagogue. Making him all the more effective amongst such types is that some of their grievances are valid and genuine, e.g. against big monied interests that have exploited them forever (like heartland-hating eastern elites like Romney and Obama as they see it). So while it's racist, it's also populist.

      Gingrich is their Great White Racist (Fake) Populist Hope.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 09:33:06 AM PST

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      •  And that's the real danger, that marrying of (4+ / 0-)

        racism and populism. We live in a very racist country, a country that has also been going through profound economic hardship.

        It's a profoundly volatile mix, one that has been seen in the past, and resulted in profoundly dangerous results.

        If corporations are people, then I want to see some birth certificates and talk to their parents.

        by Onomastic on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 10:59:35 AM PST

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        •  Yep (2+ / 0-)
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          No need to be more specific as to the dangers here.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 11:03:06 AM PST

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          •  You'd think it would be obvious, right? :( (0+ / 0-)

            (((((((((kovie))))))))))

            If corporations are people, then I want to see some birth certificates and talk to their parents.

            by Onomastic on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 11:05:30 AM PST

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            •  But we're not allowed to say it (1+ / 0-)
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              It's crazy and uncivil, you know, because that could NEVER happen here!

              We're special, you know.

              "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

              by kovie on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 11:08:16 AM PST

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              •  What continually amazes me is the refusal of (0+ / 0-)

                far too many to realize that there is no perfect human system. Whether it's political, social, technological, economic, religious, etc, they're all going to be flawed, because we are.

                That constant attribution of perfection, of exceptionalism, says far more about unacknowledged fears than it does reality.

                We're messy beings. Our creations are going to be messy, and require constant, honest, analyzing.

                Anything less, is a recipe for disaster.  

                If corporations are people, then I want to see some birth certificates and talk to their parents.

                by Onomastic on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 11:48:37 AM PST

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                •  For a party that presumably presumes perfection (1+ / 0-)
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                  They sure do have some seriously imperfect leaders and members--and that ain't no presumption, but a fact! Seriously, though, yeah, we're dealing with infantiles over there, basically angry white mama's boys who think that the world was custom-built for them and react angrily when they find out or are told that it isn't and never will be. Instead of growing up, they entrench ever deeper in the myth of victimhood and false promise of salvation by the next Great White Hope (even if he's black, like Cain). These are broken people.

                  Broken in the wrong ways, though, because we're all broken people. Some of us just figure out a way to cope and move on, instead of blaming some evil mythical other and feeling sorry for ourselves. What a bunch of losers.

                  "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                  by kovie on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 11:55:36 AM PST

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                  •  Funny you said "we're all broken people." (1+ / 0-)
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                    Been thinking about just that for awhile now. It ties in for me with a Bible quote - "By their fruit you shall know them."

                    It's fascinating how some of us take our brokenness and try to create healing for others, and a better world. While others, some not nearly as "broken", seem to lack the most basic sense of empathy and understanding.

                    If corporations are people, then I want to see some birth certificates and talk to their parents.

                    by Onomastic on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 12:20:35 PM PST

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                    •  Some people truly are broken (2+ / 0-)
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                      and lack the character or strength to get past it, and so turn to the reassuring myths and fantasies of conservatism. Others are just selfish pricks who fear losing what they already have, or want more than their fair share, and so turn to it as well, for more pragmatic reasons. Both comprise, roughly, the two major wings of the GOP (which of course breaks down into sub-wings).

                      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                      by kovie on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 12:32:33 PM PST

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        •  Racism is always 'populist'.. for the 'right' race (1+ / 0-)
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          Thurmon '48.  Wallace '68.  Every segregationist governor.  Hell, the Plantation owners got the 'popul's to fight the Civil War this way.

          And yes, demagogues playing to this delusion in hard economic time is very, very scary. See, Hitler, Adolph.

          Good thing Obama stopped the freefall and New Depression* and is turning it around#, isn't it?
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          * Stop saying 'prevented a Depression'.  GDP was falling by 9%, jobs by 3/4 of a million a month.  That's as bad as the Great Depression.  That was a Depression.  It wasn't 'Great' b/c it didn't take 4 years before BO and Ds stepped in almost immediately with aggregate demand stimulus, just what Keyes ordered and FDR used.

          #short-term anyway.  But then elections are all about short-term.

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