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  •  Well, to be scrupulously fair, (7+ / 0-)

    I remember us very much liking the filibuster when it was being used to oppose Republican initiatives during the Bush administration.

    But the constant need for a filibuster-proof majority has been one of the most often-cited reasons around here for why certain bills don't get through, or why certain legislation isn't tried.

    I go back and forth on this. Obviously, it would have been desirable for Dems, back in 2008-2010, to actually be able to take advantage of the legitimate majorities that they enjoyed in both branches of Congress, alongside the presidency.

    Indeed, I sometimes think about the system in Canada (where I'm from), where a majority in the House of Commons is a mandate to push through whatever legislation the PM and his Cabinet want to push through. Obviously, right now, that reality is terrifying: Stephen Harper's control of Parliament gives one a massive sinking feeling, particularly since it's not going away anytime soon. But in progressives' hands? We'd be singing a different tune.

    Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

    by Dale on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 04:19:09 PM PST

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    •  While you're being scrupulously fair, (10+ / 0-)

      you might look into the number of filibusters the Democrats used during the Bush Administration.  I think you'll be surprised at how few there were in comparison to the Repuke's use of same.

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      by HappyinNM on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 06:08:27 PM PST

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      •  I'm talking about how fervently (1+ / 0-)
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        Kossacks were defending the institution of the filibuster against the threat of the so-called "nuclear option." When Bill Frist was Senate Majority leader, Kossacks were adamant about the proud tradition of the filibuster as a check against the tyranny of the majority. Now, not so much.

        Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

        by Dale on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 06:08:06 AM PST

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        •  The filibuster was reserved for the worst (1+ / 0-)
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          cases.  It wasn't used to block almost every bill and every appointment which is how the Republicans are using it.  The Democrats were never that willing to obstruct the Republican agenda - otherwise we'd have never had the Bush Tax Cuts, though I figure the war would have still gone through because of the lies told to support it.

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