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  •  truth be told, the anti-Yankee Nuclear forces (4+ / 0-)
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    have not done a terrific job over the years in making the case, even with such pictures, that this unsafe 40 year old plant needs to be closed immediately.  There was no talk about how to buy off the workers or any actual deals.  ... therefore the unions are happy about Judge Murtha's decisions. 600 jobs on the line.   For years they have not built the kind of of coalition that should be in place,  one with workers at the forefront and not "save the whales" close-minded folks in the lead.  Yankee even buys off the non-profit arts groups in the area to help keep them quiet.  And it works. Nothing like a grant to help shut you up.  It is a mess of organizing without any real understanding of how to actually close the plant down.  "Save the Whales"  tactics do not work when hundreds of jobs are on the line in a community with hundreds of families etc.  .   The workers of plant should have been in coaltion to shut that plant down.  How do you do that... Don't ask the anti-Yankee folks.  They will tell you about how unsafe it is... thank you but no thanks.

    A workers strike would shut it down.  Workers being given jobs in the area at higher wages would have helped here.  Instead all we hear is about leaking pipes... and while that is bad, the coalition for real power never developed.  We have workers at the plant actually saying it is a safe place.

    The town was bought off years ago with lower taxes and sidewalks (who ever heard of sidewalks on old country roads in Vermont before)  They had so much money in that town they didn't know what to do with it.  Conquer and divide... the state should have never allowed that to happen... all those lower taxes for those folks.  Town votes for the plant and the state rep who sings its praises.

    So many mistakes have been made in terms of organizing against the plant, that I think this will never be seen as a company breaking the contract.  They of course would never rule that.  

    This plant should be closed immediately but with such a "not in my back yard" politics around southern Vermont, it will only stay open.

    Pass new laws to end media monopolization now.

    by john from vermont on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 11:37:41 AM PST

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    •  On the other hand... (0+ / 0-)

      I look at this conversely. Any town with a proposed nuclear power plant (or any power plant) should demand better sidewalks and lower taxes. They deserve it, full stop. It's not a 'buying' it called negotiations. Give us X and will allow Y.

      Secondly, VY probably has the highest union wages in the region. It's work force IS union. Many jobs in the state depend on the CHEAPer power this provides instead of building gas turbines or buying power from out of state (which actually is the biggest issue in New York vis-a-vis Indian Point).

      If there are problems with the plant, FIX THEM.

      The plant should stay open until it's proved it actually represents a REAL danger and not a 'what if' kind of danger. Unions should support the continued operations of VY and oppose the expensive alternatives to green nuclear energy.

      See: http://yesvy.blogspot.com/

      Dr. Isaac Asimov: "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny ...'"

      by davidwalters on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 12:44:34 PM PST

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      •  we don't totally disagree. (1+ / 0-)
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        except I don't believe or trust the folks at the NRC who say the place (that was built only to last 40 years) should be fine in the future.  One thing for sure, the workers are not part of the solution on whether it should be open or not and in reality are not the ones who know know how really  safe their jobs are.  The unions have no knowledge either and instead of finding out... and seeing that their workers are in trouble... and demanding the state work on energy solutions and hire these people at  higher salaries, do nothing really except say how nice of Judge Murtha.

        As for the town... the surrounding towns were not part of the deal so we get screwed ... that is what I mean by conquer and divide.  We are just at risk as those in the town that has the plant... in fact some are more (a case of geography and winds)... for you to think its as easy as fixing problems for something that is so old without true knowledge of the problems is kind of simplistic.

        It's a mess and we have no realistic solutions.

        Pass new laws to end media monopolization now.

        by john from vermont on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 01:52:50 PM PST

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      •  Fukushima Daiichi (1+ / 0-)
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        and Fukushima Daiini (you heard about its containment breach, didn't you?) are all the reasons any nation needs to shut down every single GE Mark I & II reactor still running.

        But of course, we here in the 'Cradle of Nuclear Non-Civilization' won't do any such thing. In fact, I think the NRC's just about done re-licensing them all for another 20 years past design basis sans any retrofits at all, and last I checked NRC's own TATF recommendations based on what is known about Fukushima have - as usual - been tabled for the duration.

        And sure enough, when one or more of 'em melt like ice cream in the sun and blow sky high we'll be treated to - the usual - "Who Could Have Foreseen?" [TM]

        The learning curve on all things nuclear is terminally shallow enough to be positively negative.

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