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  •  You might feel that way but (1+ / 0-)
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    Is there any evidence "most Americans" agree?  We all have our tastes, and they're legitimate, but it's not always right to assume most people share them.  I don't know what critics liked so much about "The Descendants".

    26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-12(now)

    by Xenocrypt on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:09:27 AM PST

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    •  We're buying "The Descendants" when it gets to DVD (0+ / 0-)

      At its base, it's a contrast between the pain of life and hope for the future, mixed in with holding to honorable ideals in the face of intense pressure.

      "I hope; therefore, I can live."
      For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

      by tietack on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:17:16 AM PST

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      •  I think that's what they were going for, but (1+ / 0-)
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        In my opinion, they gave the most interesting parts of the story too scant an attention.  (Spoiler alert:) I can't really forgive the movie for how it sets up this big ethical/political/financial/legal dilemma and then resolving it with "we'll figure it out later".  

        Also, I'm a bit sick of George Clooney movies that open with narration where he explains his character's motivations.  See also "Up in the Air".  

        However, I do think there were interesting things in the story, and that it was pretty well-acted, especially the welcome cameos by Robert Forster and Beau Bridges, even if I think Clooney is starting to become a repetitive actor.  I wish the cinematography was more interesting and that it spent a bit less time on the caper/road trip storylines and a bit more on the extended family and the implications for Hawaii.  I did like the depiction of Hawaii society--the extant consequences of its history, the small and chummy elite, the ethnic diversity, the Punahou references.  

        26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-12(now)

        by Xenocrypt on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 09:15:44 AM PST

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    •  THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! (1+ / 0-)
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      First, I didn't hate "The Descendants." Despite it making me a little misty eyed, I kind of liked it. But it wasn't funny. There were a few light moments, but it wasn't funny. Unless it's remade, it will never be funny. (Neither was 50/50, for that matter, despite it being a good movie.) There's nothing wrong with that, of course, as movies can be lots of different things, but if they are said to be funny, they should be funny. And while I have only seen a few Alexander Payne movies, they are usually the worst offenders when it comes to this.

      Anyway, as far as the speech goes, like I said above, it wasn't meant for us. It was meant more for, well, the general public, perhaps in a very bad way, if you can believe Matt Yglesias.

      •  I don't think it was meant to be a comedy (0+ / 0-)

        I think that Alexander Payne's movies, while I wasn't the biggest fan, were definitely improving--except I don't think "The Descendants" is better than "Sideways".  So I was disappointed.  I also thought it was visually half-assed, which is a shame--movies don't have to be "pretty" but I do think they should have visual interest.  My favorite movies, by the way, of the year are probably "Margin Call" and then "The Help".  I must like large ensembles of mostly one gender.

        26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-12(now)

        by Xenocrypt on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 09:05:37 AM PST

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        •  Lots of people and outlets (0+ / 0-)

          are calling it a comedy-drama. I know it wasn't meant to be explicitly funny, but there wasn't anything really humorous about it. That is fine, because it's still a decent movie.

          •  I think it was going for a light tone (0+ / 0-)

            and some comedic elements, but the director, I think, has said he's meant it to be his first non-comedy (or non-full-comedy--I forget who the interview was with or what they said exactly.).  I think the comedic elements were actually the weakest parts of the movie--they came off as pretty forced to me.  Clooney running to the beach, the jokey "peering over the hedge" shot, foul-mouthed kids, feisty older men who say or do politically incorrect things.

            26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-12(now)

            by Xenocrypt on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 09:47:43 AM PST

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            •  I agree with you there. (0+ / 0-)

              I've seen some pretty decent movies in recent weeks: Haywire, Young Adult, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. None of them have really wowed me, but none, with the exception of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, have annoyed me. Then again, I like to see movies more than once, as the second or third time usually hooks me; that was the case with The 40-Year-Old Virgin.

              I'm pretty excited to see The Iron Lady, even if it is supposedly a bit odd with its history; This Means War, because pretty people and lots of shit blowing up is always a good time; and Safe House, for a few different reasons. The Grey looks good, but I am not sure I can mentally handle the isolation scenes. However, I think movie singularity will be reached when Liam Neeson chases Denzel Washington and lots of shit blows up, with a few gratuitous nude scenes thrown in, so perhaps I should work on a screen play of some type.

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