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  •  Really (3+ / 0-)
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    claude, Onomastic, Words In Action

    it was OK but I've been conditioned by the President to wait for the actions - not just listen to the talk.

    The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

    by ctexrep on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 08:11:03 PM PST

    •  I know, I know, but, just for tonight (17+ / 0-)

      the check is in the mail and I'll respect you in the morning and...

      don't always believe what you think

      by claude on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 08:34:51 PM PST

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      •  If you look back, though (10+ / 0-)

        a lot of the times you thought he was sneaking round with another woman, he was actually preparing a nice surprise for you.

        eg, no he was not stalling on getting rid of DADT, he was carving the stake that he has now driven through its heart to ensure it can never rise again. No he was not caving on the Keystone XL pipeline, he was creating a narrative under which his killing of it is the Republicans' own fault.

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        by ultraviolet uk on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 05:01:55 AM PST

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        •  And, no, he did NOT announce a (7+ / 0-)

          settlement with the banks over foreclosures last night, which I read a couple of days ago here was guaranteed to happen!

          Instead, he announced a bigger investigation and put Schneiderman in charge of it....the guy that bucked the settlement in the first place.

          People fall for the propaganda even here.  It's so sad to see.

          •  can you get me a link on this? nt (1+ / 0-)
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            Obama does do the right thing sometimes - but seeing him actually do something about the banks would be very reassuring to me.

            •  Here's one....there are others (1+ / 0-)
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              but this was front page:

              The action by these groups is spurred on by reports that there will be an imminent announcement on the long-rumored settlement with banks on foreclosure fraud, spearheaded by the Obama administration and joined in by a number state attorneys general. President Obama is expected to announce something about the settlement in tomorrow's State of the Union address. Backing up that speculation is a meeting today between U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan and a Justice Department official and Democratic attorneys general "to rally support for a proposed settlement with banks over foreclosure practices." Likewise, a conference call today with Republican attorneys general has been rumored. As David Dayen notes, however, the attorneys general who matter the most, those who are opposed to this settlement as being too easy on the banks and not nearly large enough address the scope of the foreclosure crisis, aren't likely to attend.

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          •  "Financial Fraud Unit Appears Designed to Fail" (0+ / 0-)
            First of all, this becomes part of a three year-old Financial Fraud Task Force which has done approximately nothing on Wall Street accountability outside of a few insider trading arrests. So that’s the context of this investigative panel, part of the same entity that has spun its wheels. Second, the panel would only look at origination, where there have been plenty of lawsuits and where the main offenders are all out of business, and securitization, which may aid investors (that includes pension funds, of course) but not necessarily homeowners. Third, let’s look at the participants on this 5-member panel, which sounds to me like the absolute worst way to handle an investigation (you put an independent prosecutor in charge with a budget and subpoena authority if you really want to get something done, not a committee).

            You have Lanny Breuer, last seen telling 60 Minutes every excuse in the book to justify the lack of prosecutions out of the Justice Department. He’s the co-chair of the panel who will “get tough” on the banks. Breuer was also a partner at the white shoe law firm Covington & Burling, which actually provided the legal underpinning to create MERS. Reuters was out just last week questioning whether Breuer should recuse himself from all financial fraud-related investigations; now he’s co-chairing one of the major ones!

            Let’s move on. You have Robert Khuzami, who has turned enforcement into such a pathetic joke at the SEC that a judge stopped the no-fault settlements they were throwing at the banks left and right. Khuzami was also a former general counsel at Deutsche Bank, one of the leading trustees in securitization, precisely the area where this investigation would be aimed. John Walsh is unfamiliar to me (though he comes with decent credentials), and I know two things about Tony West: his previous experience has little to do with financial fraud, and he’s the brother-in-law of California AG Kamala Harris, one of the holdouts on the foreclosure fraud settlement (more on that in a minute).

            This move opens up access to a variety of federal resources, at a larger scale available than in the New York Attorney General’s office. Schneiderman already had a deal with the Inspector General of the FHFA on information-sharing, but it was more limited. It also opens up other relevant jurisdictions that Schneiderman can pursue.

            But that assumes Schneiderman can get the buy-in he needs from co-chairs that seem committed to protecting the banks from harm. As Abigail Field writes, the deck looks stacked against Schneiderman if the goal is to reach consensus on prosecutions. And that could mean that the long-view goal here was not to prolong investigations and delay the settlement, as Felix Salmon believes, but precisely the opposite (though I do think Felix makes good points in that post, particularly about how this endless process has mainly delayed needed principal reductions).

            As one observer close to an AG told me last night, “I don’t know how Eric Schneiderman gets a wave and a wink from the President of the United States in the State of the Union address without standing behind the Administration’s agreement.” Indeed. That upsets the entire balance of power with respect to the settlement. If Schneiderman joins, it undermines the group of “Justice Democrat” AGs who were working on how to deal with investigations in the absence of a settlement. AG offices are freaking out about this, and it will be tough to keep them from acquiescing now. After all, they have a fig leaf of this new new investigation.

            More important, this announcement has collapsed the unified wall of objection on the left to a settlement. And I mean COLLAPSED. Just a day ago, activists were getting in the face of their AGs, warning them of the dangers of a weak settlement that provides little in the way of relief to homeowners. Now I have dozens of press releases in my inbox from liberal groups offering huzzahs to the President for this wonderful investigatory panel.

            I don’t have a clue what these groups are talking about. And to be clear, I didn’t understand all the focus on having the President “announce an investigation” in the first place. That was the coordinated language of practically every call to action I’ve seen in the last week. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that they had this guarantee in hand from the White House, so they could push out to their lists with the “big victory” they received.

            Only this isn’t a victory at all, at least not yet. Schneiderman may be trying to work from within, but he’s saddled with a panel full of co-chairs tied to banks with a history of obstructing accountability. The united front of Justice Democrats has been nicked. Kamala Harris, facing enormous pressure to go along with the settlement (she remains opposed at this point), now must contend with being the main big-state holdout AND having a family member co-chairing the investigation panel!

            This is a classic Obama move, putting a threat or a rival inside the tent. It happened with Elizabeth Warren and David Petraeus and Jon Huntsman, and it’s happening again. It divides the coalition against a weak settlement, which will at the least shut down state and federal prosecutions on foreclosure fraud and servicing issues. It puts hopes in yet another investigation, one with little chance for success.

            Put it another way: one thing that would convince me that this committee was serious was if the settlement pact was put on hold until the investigation were completed. The fact that the settlement push is in high gear is yet more proof that this committee is yet another bit of regulatory/enforcement theater, just like the Foreclosure Task Force, or the servicer consent decrees (confirmed as an embarrassment via the use of badly conflicted “consultants”), or the current OCC investigation into foreclosure abuses, which excludes all sorts of injuries inflicted upon homeowners, most notably servicer fees abuses and misapplication of payments.

            I’d really like to be wrong about this. But this just reads like a gambit, a fix, a charade.

            David Dayen

            "I am confident that we're going to be able to leave the Gulf Coast in better shape than it was before." Barack Obama

            by quagmiremonkey on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:23:54 AM PST

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        •  despite my many bitchins (0+ / 0-)

          about lack of fight and caving in, I recognize that he did play the 'Pubbies well enough to get them to paint themselves into an ideological corner.  

          At this point, he can legitimately say that he made every effort to meet them halfway and the whole nation has watched and duly noted their intransigence, and  he pulled out a whole quiverful of things he was directing to be done under his authority to show he was moving on without them.

          Was it 11th dimensional chess all along?

          Doesn't actually matter.  What matters is what happens in the next 10 months.

          It was a flawless performance, letter and pitch perfect.

          don't always believe what you think

          by claude on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 03:37:01 PM PST

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    •  Well, given that the Navy Seals (8+ / 0-)

      pulled off a rescue of 2 hostages from Somalia almost as the President was concluding his speech - I'd say there was some action pretty darn quick.

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