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  •  Not only that, Jed. Mitt not only joined Pelosi, (47+ / 0-)

    but even more incredibly stupidly he attached himself to a Pelosi smear without even knowing what the smear is or even if there really is one.

    Any smart strategist would have told him "ATTACK PELOSI AND DEFEND NEWT, DUMB ASS!!!"

    He is truly one of the most inept frontrunner I've ever seen.

    •  Don't you mean (7+ / 0-)

      "He truly WAS one of themost inept frontrunners I've ever seen"?

      Ultimately, the only thing that matters with respect to preserving choice is who will be nominating the next Supreme Court Justices.

      by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:08:08 AM PST

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    •  Maybe it's his days as a vulture capitalist (18+ / 0-)

      He lives in the moment, reacting to threats as they emerge, trying to stay one step ahead of the competition.

      Right now Newt is the competition, so grab this straw and smack him with it.

      Or, in other words, the instincts of a successful businessman may be quite contrary to those of a successful campaigner, which may in turn be not appropriate for an actual President.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:16:30 AM PST

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      •  Name the number of big businessmen who (10+ / 0-)

        have been elected president. Right. There haven't been any.

        Your comment is spot on.

        •  Now you're making me think (9+ / 0-)

          Bush did run an oil company ... into the ground, and ran the Texas Rangers ... very badly.

          Carter had a peanut farm ... which almost went bankrupt while he was President.

          Truman had a men's store - went bankrupt.

          Hoover. Hoover was an executive at a mining company prior to becoming President, and was good at it.

          In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

          by blue aardvark on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:23:53 AM PST

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          •  Not really. I think that Hoover (5+ / 0-)

            was an engineer and kind of an efficiency expert if I remember correctly. I wouldn't classify him as a classical businessman.

            But even if I grant you that...I mean...you know...HERBERT FUCKING HOOVER! LOL

            •  Per Wikipedia (7+ / 0-)
              Hoover went to Australia in 1897 as an employee of Bewick, Moreing & Co., a London-based mining company. He served as a geologist and mining engineer while searching the Western Australian goldfields for investments. After being appointed as mine manager at the age of 23, he led a major program of expansion for the Sons of Gwalia gold mine at Gwalia, Western Australia, and brought in many Italian immigrants to cut costs and counter the union militancy of the Australian miners.[4][5] He believed "the rivalry between the Italians and the other men was of no small benefit."[4] He also described Italians as "fully 20 per cent superior"[4] to other miners.

              ... SNIP ...

              Hoover was made a partner in Bewick, Moreing & Co. in 1901 and assumed responsibility for various Australian operations. In August–September 1905, Hoover came up with a technological innovation. When visiting the mines at Broken Hill, New South Wales, he noticed considerable zinc in the Broken Hill lead-silver ore, which could not be recovered and was lost as tailings. Hoover devised a practical and profitable method to use the then-new froth flotation process to treat these tailings and recover the zinc.[10] With William Baillieu and others, he founded the Zinc Corporation (later, following various mergers, a part of Rio Tinto Group).

              He was an efficiency expert. And he wasn't responsible for the Depression - that was Coolidge. He did botch the response, though.

              But also remember this.

              Because of Hoover's previous experience with Germany at the end of World War I, in 1946 President Harry S. Truman selected the former president to tour Germany to ascertain the food status of the occupied nation. Hoover toured what was to become West Germany in Hermann Göring's old train coach and produced a number of reports critical of U.S. occupation policy. The economy of Germany had "sunk to the lowest level in a hundred years."[68] He stated in one report:

                  There is the illusion that the New Germany left after the annexations can be reduced to a "pastoral state". It cannot be done unless we exterminate or move 25,000,000 people out of it.[69]

              As the Cold War approached and deepened, Hoover expressed reservations about some of the activities of the American Friends Service Committee, which he previously had strongly supported.[citation needed]

              On Hoover’s initiative, a school meals program in the American and British occupation zones of Germany was begun on April 14, 1947. The program served 3.5 million children aged six through 18. A total of 40,000 tons of American food was provided during the Hooverspeisung (Hoover meals).

              Dude did some good stuff as a humanitarian.

              In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

              by blue aardvark on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:32:32 AM PST

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              •  humanitarian my a** (0+ / 0-)

                you should read the same wikipedia page how he mistreated blacks in favor of whites during a natural disaster in the midwest (AND bribed Booker T Washington into suppressing news of it so it wouldn't hurt his political fortunes)

                except for Abe Lincoln (Carter and Barack so far) all of our presidents have huge ugly skeletons that makes one go ...dag, I hope I'm never that evil (even Washington & Jefferson)

                If you aren't outraged....you aren't paying attention

                by happenstance on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 09:32:06 AM PST

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                •  And he saved millions from starving (0+ / 0-)

                  post WW-I and helped with the Marshall Plan.

                  I expect everyone to have skeletons. Acts are good or evil, not people.

                  In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

                  by blue aardvark on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 09:37:08 AM PST

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      •  If his days as a vulture capitalist were (2+ / 0-)
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        animating* Romney, he would hold a meeting with Newt in a "quiet room" where he would convince Newt to drop out of the race, endorse Mitt, and surrender his delegates.  He would accomplish this by promising Newt the vice-presidency, an undisclosed amount of cash, his own permanent vice-presidential library to be built where the rose garden is now, and most importantly, that his first act as president would be to rename the White House "The Newtery."

        Of course, Newt would never go for such a thing, but then Bain was not always successful in pulling off their bullshit ploys either.  But for the sake of the analogy, let's pretend Newt is mesmerized by The Newtery and goes for it.

        Imagine Romney's first press conference as the nominee:

        Brett Baier:  "Mr. Romney, now that you've captured the nomination, have you considered the selfless Newt, who sacrificed his presidential bid to endorse you for the good of the country and the party - have you considered Newt as a possibility for vice-president?"

        Romney:  "Newt who?

        *cartoon characters are animated, not motivated.

        What'd the devil give you for your soul, Tommy? He taught me to play this guitar REAL good. Oh son, for that you gave up your everlastin' soul? Well, I wuddn' usin' it.

        by ZedMont on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:57:02 AM PST

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    •  LOL imagine if... (12+ / 0-)

      ...she literally just misspoke. And what she meant was "I know something ... and it's he won't win." as in "I can't believe they haven't figured this out."

      •  Or what if there is a smear and its like: (0+ / 0-)

        "Newt Gingrich secretly tried to torpedo the Auto Bailout."

        He's a total dumb ass.

      •  Newt's history is filled with tawdry (2+ / 0-)
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        and often sophomoric antics and there are more than enough witnesses who appear to be happy to share.

        Here's a link to a conservative Catholic site bashing and trashing Newt dated 12/28/11.  It's old news for Newt watchers but graphic enough to disgust those who might want to see Newt in the Oval Office.

        http://www.christianforums.com/...

        When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

        by msmacgyver on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 08:34:00 AM PST

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      •  Watching the video, that's how I took it. (3+ / 0-)
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        "I know something. [The American people are too smart to elect that loud-mouth, blowhard, disgraceful, dishonorable, thrice-married, fantasyland living, douchebag as President of this great nation. Newt Gingrich? Really?!]"

      •  Thing is, it's getting more and more difficult to (2+ / 0-)
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        imagine a disclosure that could be unique enough to contrast with all the other disclosures that Newt has rolled over like an Abrams tank over a speed bump.

        After a while, new disclosures only serve to dilute the mix and they all sort of conflate in a "well, it's good ole Newt, lol, what do you expect?"  

        Eventually, the base is so numb (I mean, after the born-again evangelicals overlook all his philandering, what else is there?) that any new revelation just goes to burnish Newt's reputation for shedding criticism like water off a duck's back, a quality (in their minds) that is indispensable in the general.

        In other words "Damn the jello down the wall and full Newt ahead!"

        What'd the devil give you for your soul, Tommy? He taught me to play this guitar REAL good. Oh son, for that you gave up your everlastin' soul? Well, I wuddn' usin' it.

        by ZedMont on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 09:06:30 AM PST

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      •  She used the locution "There is something (1+ / 0-)
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        I know." She said it with a voice of great conviction.

        It works great as a trap against Romney. But I suspect she really has something.  Probably something like Gingrich taking bribes from arms dealers who were trading with U.S. enemies.

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