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  •  I'm fairly certain 99.9% of the folks who've been (25+ / 0-)

    critical of President Obama still are certain he's better than the alternatives.  The remaining .1% are probably here sub rosa anyway.

    •  oh for sure (0+ / 0-)

      i've been real critical of the president, because he's done a lot of things that I find to be extremelywrong.

      but I basically have to back him because the GOP agree with him on everything that bothers me (imperialism, hatred of due process and whistleblowers, domestic spying, being tied up with the financial sector) and are way worse on other issues (environment, abortion, church and state, economics).

      At the same time though, because of the list of problems i have with this administration, I find myself really uninspired to be all gung-ho about the hard/no-fun aspects of the "job" that the diarist mentions (defeating the GOP). The dynamic whereby the Democrats ignore the priorities of the left and play to the center definitely sucks the activism right out of me. If I'm active for the people who really agree with me on issues (third party liberals) then I'm at best engaging in Quixocity, and if I actively back the Ds then I can help be part of a winning team but they'll literally make fun of my policy desires once they've secured power and completely ignore me until election time rolls around again.

      "You try to vote or participate in the government/ and the muh'fuckin' Democrats is actin' like Republicans" ~ Kweli -8.00, -6.56

      by joey c on Mon Jan 30, 2012 at 12:38:22 PM PST

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      •  You are ignoring the elephant in the room (0+ / 0-)

        You are not accounting for all the corporate, financial, twisted religious fanatics (especially The Family since even those who know about it tend to let it slip under the radar), and power addicts, with assistance from organized crime from local to international, that are the true bosses of DC and the country.

        We are trying to get good candidates to run against lousy ones. The first thing they have to face is whether they can accomplish anything in their first term and get re-elected. Whether the impossible dream nature of the fight is ever going to fade enough to make the never ending battle worth going to.

        What they need is an army of volunteers out to support their candidacies, so we get enough new house and senate members willing to go against the PTB, including the DLC. Obama is not the only candidate who needs boots in the campaign. If we fire up people to vote for the downticket races, they will vote for Obama too. Sort of reverse coat tail. Wisconsin and the other states with Koch Tea Party office holders have exposed the importance of state and local elections – especially in mid term elections.

        The WH is clearly important. Significantly reversing the '10 mid terms is even more critical. The broken branch must retake it's power from the executive and judicial branches. The voters cannot leave the voting booth and go back to spectator Democracy. They must stay involved, signing petitions, contacting their representatives and getting to street protests That is the only way we the people will be able to govern ourselves again.

        Did you get Alan Grayson's email on this ?

        News report on the hit ordered for Kucinich

        That was '78. They are a lot more sophisticated 34 years later, with technology they never dreamed of then.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Mon Jan 30, 2012 at 01:48:29 PM PST

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        •  I'm gonna concur with you here (0+ / 0-)

          backing actual liberals who want to be in congress is one thing that animates me.

          worrying about how they might suddenly turn into centrist sellouts keeps me up at night.

          "You try to vote or participate in the government/ and the muh'fuckin' Democrats is actin' like Republicans" ~ Kweli -8.00, -6.56

          by joey c on Mon Jan 30, 2012 at 02:18:05 PM PST

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