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    There was no roundup in Hawaii because they couldn't round up 1/3 of the population.  Which proves how farcial the whole thing was - Hawaii after Pearl Harbor was the part of the United States most exposed to a Japanese invasion (excluding already invaded Philippine Islands, Guam and Wake), an invasion of California was almost impossible, but it was on the West Coast, not Hawaii, that these American citizens were rounded up.

    Second, I have heard the real estate industry had something to do with it.  Great way to make a profit when hundreds of thousands of people had 24 or 48 hours to sell their homes and businesses.  I suspect the German real estate industry enjoyed a similar profit.

    Third, The Japanese American Memorial on Louisiana Avenue in DC is a very moving place.  I used to walk past it to and from work before my place of work moved.  It is only two blocks from Union Station and very close to the Capitol.  It was dedicated not too long before 9-11, and I have heard that the Memorial's presence near Capitol Hill may have restrained the "Round up the Muslims" gang and prevented us from making this mistake again.

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

    by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 03:35:25 PM PST

    •  Correct - no roundup in Hawaii - but (8+ / 0-)

      the Hawaiian Japanese still faced bigotry.  

      The real estate factor was key.

      thanks for that link to the Memorial!

      "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition" Bernice Johnson Reagon

      by Denise Oliver Velez on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 03:41:54 PM PST

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    •  there was no similar roundup of Germans (7+ / 0-)

      RW distorts history as they claim Germans were rounded up.  The truth is that German foreign nationals were rounded up.  Naturalized German citizens were not rounded up while the Nisei were.
      I may be wrong here but anecdotally I have vets claim to have encountered several German/Americans fighting in the Waffen while I understand, despite strong inducements and propaganda, few if any Japanese returned to fight in the Japanese forces  

      •  I'm aware of a dentist and his wife (2+ / 0-)
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        Their names escape me (it started with an M).  They lived in Honolulu.  The FBI had wiretapped their telephone.  On the Saturday evening of December 6, 1941, a reporter from a Tokyo newspaper called, as FBI agents fluent in Japanese listened in.  The reporter told them that his newspaper was going to run an article in next Sunday's travel section about Oahu.  The reporter asked them if this flower was in bloom, and if that flower was in bloom.  The reporter was very disappointed that a certain flower was not in bloom, but was consoled when this couple told him another flower he had asked about was in bloom.

        The FBI transcribed the conversation, and early Sunday morning Secretary of War Henry Stimson presented it to President Roosevelt.  FDR asked Stimson what this meant.  Stimson said he didn't know, but told FDR that the dentist and his wife's botany was all wrong - some of the flowers didn't even grow in Hawaii.  Shortly after he got the message that the Japanese were bombing Pearl Harbor, it dawned on him what the telephone call was all about.  The "flowers" were different kinds of ships at Pearl Harbor.  The flowers not in bloom were the aircraft carriers.  The flowers in bloom were the battleships.

        I don't know what happened to this couple.  They were American citizens and I wouldn't be surprized (or upset) if they were tried and executed for treason.  As far as I know, they were the only Americans of Japanese descent who were disloyal to the United States.

        "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

        by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 06:54:18 PM PST

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