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  •  sorry, but I think you are nuts (6+ / 0-)

    the appropriate thing is to step back and ask why the kids are in the hall

    for starters, they have 5 minutes between classes, no chance for any down time, and are locked into behavior adults impose for the convenience of the adults that have nothing to do with real learning.

    Taking a "zero tolerance" approach means (a) devoting resources to imposing punishment that would be better applied to learning, and (b) removing the kids from the instructional setting to a disciplinary setting that does nothing to advance their education.

    You are mixing apples and oranges.  Real crimes, whether of rich white girls or poor black and hispanic boys should be published.  The kinds of behavior that are being addressed in the article are NOT crimes, rather it is a "criminalizing" of relatively minor misbehavior.  It is the entire approach to the structure of school and its connection to what else is going in their communities.

    It's rather sad that you don't see it.

    "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

    by teacherken on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 10:01:23 AM PST

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    •  You can't just "take a step back". (0+ / 0-)

      You write:


      "...for starters, they have 5 minutes between classes, no chance for any down time, and are locked into behavior adults impose for the convenience of the adults that have nothing to do with real learning."

      How do you propose to change this?

      Do you think that your School Board, Administration, and Teachers will suddenly wake up on the "enlightened" side of the bed one morning and fix things?

      Things only change when we make it more uncomfortable for the comfortable.

      Bust a few of those "smart" kids and make them late for the lacrosse game. Then you will see a willingness to address how much time kids get between classes.

      Right now your upper-class kids follow a "private law" ("prive"-"lege", in Latin), so there is no need for their influential parents and advocates to change the system. They are above the system.

      I also believe that there is a direct link between black kids getting more detentions and suspensions and between black kids spending more time in jail. Not only are they both caused by the same thing (racism) but one also causes the other.

      •  I believed for a long time that NCLB would end (0+ / 0-)

        when the schools of the affluent professional and executive elite, such as New Trier High School in Illinois, were unable to make AYP and labeled "failing." It was mathematically inevitable. It finally began happening last year . . . but NCLB is, if anything, stronger than ever, buttressed by Race to the Trough Top and the ALEC-backed "School Reform" movement.

        I don't think "afflicting the comfortable" is going to result in any changes; on the contrary, I think that when the comfortable feel afflicted, they work that much harder to ensure that their privilege remains in place, unassailable, and the inconsistencies simply worsen.

        "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

        by Geenius at Wrok on Mon Jan 30, 2012 at 10:32:46 AM PST

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