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  •  Yeah, I DO, You DO NOT (3+ / 0-)
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    Because MLK Jr. was not the only black person fighting for civil rights. Or the only white one. I cannot compare the SCLC because that was run like a hierarchical political entity training soldiers against the establishment. OWS is not so rigid in its structure.

    Guess what: OWS is as democratic as it gets; ever heard of a general assembly? Guess not. Guess everyone should wait until we all agree on everything ever before we act.

    (eyeroll)

    •  SCLC was NOT hierarchical (1+ / 0-)
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      That's the basic history you seem to be missing and the basic insight you don't get about OWS.

      Having a website and declaring that 1 billion people should go on strike on May 1st -- that's hierarchical no matter how ignorantly the people pushing this think they aren't.

      Trying to corral 5,000 - 10,000 churches, NAACP branches, student associations, union locals, Urban League branches, National Association of Negro Women groups, adult branches of the black fraternities and sororities into agreeing on a date and plan for a non-violent action -- that is democratic and non-hierarchical.

      The idea of a few people declaring global general strike without even being union members is frankly laughable from the perspective of what works in creating social change.

      Yeah good luck with that.  

      I wonder how many plumbers, carpenters, cement pourers, construction workers, nurses, medical residents, teachers, secretaries, bus drivers, cashiers, legal aid lawyers, etc., etc., are going to go on strike May 1st because "ad busters" has declared a global general strike.

      ROFLMAO!

      •  Yes, It Was (1+ / 0-)
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        http://www.newyorker.com/...

        Something for you to chew on.

        And maybe many of those people will go on strike; they're showing up to OWS rallies and benefit from economic equality.

        But you know some liberal website said it so fuck you, or something.

      •  I am one of those workers. I will join a General (4+ / 0-)

        Strike on May 1.  I will encourage my fellow workers to do the same.  I am also a member of a Union, and we are already talking about it.  "Just one website" will become a hundred thousand of them.  It has to start somewhere.  You sound a lot like you would be happy to throttle it in its infancy.  You are not helping, you are hindering.

        If you have nothing to contribute to this movement, then get out of the way, because we will be 'moving' without you.  The comment above that says that OWS is the base of the Democratic Party - isn't just some bullshit.  I and most of my Occupy friends (and I have been to several), are very liberal, predominately Democrat, and angry as hell.  It's more than just young people.  I see seniors all the time.  We are all angry that our Constitution is being trampled on.  We are all angry that Corporations are ruling our country.  We've had it.  I am not alone.

        At the fast pace of today's society, three months is an Eon.  Calling for a General Strike might not get every worker out there to do it - some have no choice but to work, or starve - because they would lose their job.  Those of us that can get away with it will do it.  We don't need to 'corral' anyone.  All we need to do is spread the word.  Occupy has already had an enormous, visible effect on our world.  We are still only just getting started.  It's been four months.  Look around you.  No politician is ignoring it now.  Not one.

        So stay home, and keep taking it in the backside.  No one is forcing you to comply.  

        #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

        by Evolutionary on Mon Jan 30, 2012 at 01:04:11 PM PST

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        •  maybe it was a bit much (3+ / 0-)
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          to say it is the base as if it is an interest group since it seems to sweeping, but what are the seniors going to do: vote for romney and paul ryan's budget? Yeah, I'm sure.

          What about the poor and the unemployed, the ripped off, and the ethnic? I'm not sure when the Republicans cared for their vote that would be news to me. Everyone wants the Democratic party to be energized, and for the people to make the change they believe in and blah blah blah, but all of the sudden people take action and we have to put on the brakes I mean what is going on?!

      •  There aren't union members involved in Occupy? (1+ / 0-)
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        Have you not been paying attention?

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Mon Jan 30, 2012 at 10:12:30 PM PST

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          Unions have democratic procedures -- things like "strike votes."  In fact the strike vote is the single most momentous kind of decision a union makes and is taken very seriously.

          No where else in the world would someone equate union members participation in a movement that calls for a general strike to "unions calling for a general strike."

          •  To be clear, I was refering to the part where you (1+ / 0-)
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            said:

            he idea of a few people declaring global general strike without even being union members is frankly laughable from the perspective of what works in creating social change.

            I probably should have just quoted it and said that, yes, there definitely were union members involved.

            There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

            by AoT on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 06:59:58 AM PST

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