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  •  Term limits will only work... (4+ / 0-)

    if corporate money is taken out of the equation.

    The 1% can just plug in a different hack every election to replace the hack whose term is up.

    I'm not against term limits per se. But if money is taken out of the equation, most of the incentive to make a career out of elected office is gone with it.

    That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history. ~ Aldous Huxley

    by markthshark on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 03:12:39 PM PST

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    •  Get your point (0+ / 0-)

      but term limits are nuts.

      All term limits do is limit the experience of the Legislature.

      If a Rep. is good enough, and the people want to elect him, then they should be able to do so.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Wed Feb 01, 2012 at 05:49:19 AM PST

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    •  But why shouldn't it be a career (0+ / 0-)

      for someone who is truly dedicated to public service? It's not like we're in such a simple society that anyone can just, say, set aside the plow for a couple of years and represent their fellow farmers in the legislature...there are real skills involved in being a good legislator, and there's nothing wrong with the good ones staying with it...the problem with term limits is that it lets the electorate shirk their responsibility to vote out the bad ones...people know that no "politician" can ever serve more than x years, so there's no reason to bother voting or even know who their "representative" is. And there's really no way--no fair way--to limit the revolving door aspect, since former legislators (unless they're rich to start with) have to make a living somehow after they leave.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Wed Feb 01, 2012 at 07:30:56 AM PST

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