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  •  I don't have insurance. Result: I don't have care. (0+ / 0-)

    In 2014 I will qualify for the expansion of Medicaid under the ACA.

    I'm getting cataracts. I haven't had a cancer screening in twelve years (preventative care will be FREE under the ACA--no copay).

    So I'm looking at the thing from a different perspective than most good progressive purists.

    Enjoy the San Diego Zoo's panda cam!

    by Fonsia on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 08:28:26 PM PST

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    •  Many people do have insurance, and can't (0+ / 0-)

      afford to access care anyway.

      They die easily preventable deaths; you call those who mourn their loss "purists".

      But, if you got yours, I guess it's good enough.

      Fear is your only God.

      by JesseCW on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 09:06:11 PM PST

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      •  You didn't read my post. (0+ / 0-)

        I don't have insurance.

        Haven't had it for over a decade. And I'm 61.

        But I'll get it in 2014. Apparently you don't know that there are already restrictions on the insurance companies, and those are getting stronger. The cap on benefits has been lifted already, for example.

        If those folks can't afford their co-pays, they need to change insurance companies. If they can't get coverage due to pre-existing conditions, they become eligible for the PPIC, which is pretty cheap in most states.

        And if their insurance companies won't pay for care they need to stay alive, they need to contact HHS, 'cause that's illegal now.

        I'm done with you.

        Enjoy the San Diego Zoo's panda cam!

        by Fonsia on Wed Feb 01, 2012 at 11:55:02 AM PST

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        •  You made it clear that you're happy as can be (0+ / 0-)

          that you get something out of this bill, and just can't be bothered to hear about those who got fucked over so you could have it.

          You don't care that millions of poor and working people will get nothing but a tax hike out of this.

          You realize that 60% actuarial value means the insured wind up paying 40% of the costs, right?  That's the plan poor and working people will get subsidies to buy.

          That's not Insurance.  It's a fairly shitty discount card.

          Lifting the cap on lifetime benefits?  That doesn't matter if you're dead because you couldn't afford 300 bucks to find out whether it was indigestion or a heart attack.

          "Just change providers"?  That's a Mitt Romney answer, a bizarre claim that magical markets will make it better through competition.

          Your refusal to admit how very wrong you've been demonstrated to be on point of fact after point of fact shows that it's the truth you're "done with".

          Nothing has changed in three years.  It's the same counterfactuals, the same frustrated hand waving retreat, and the same cheerful disregard for "the sacrifices"by those who think they personally stand to gain.

          Every day I see people who desperately need oxygen go without because of deductibles as small as 500 bucks a year.  

          Trying to force poor and working people to buy junk insurance like that just so you can get medicaid?

          It's wrong.

          Fear is your only God.

          by JesseCW on Wed Feb 01, 2012 at 08:33:09 PM PST

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