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  •  So... (1+ / 0-)
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    lgmcp

    ...why do educated workers work for the government when they could make more money in the private sector?

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
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    by Sparhawk on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 08:55:06 AM PST

    •  I can speak for myself (12+ / 0-)

      Money isn't the most important thing in life to me, and the proudest day of my legal career was when I first stood up in court to introduce myself, and then finished by saying, "representing the United States of America."

      PROUD to be a Democrat!

      by leevank on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 09:40:35 AM PST

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      •  One more thing: (10+ / 0-)

        I especially loved beating the pants off some partner from a big law firm who was making several times more than me.  I'll never forget one case where the United State was one of several defendants, all the rest of them represented by big firms.  One of the big firm lawyers said that I should stay at the Ritz-Carlton, since that's where everybody else was staying and we could discuss strategy over dinner.  I basically looked at him like he was nuts, and asked, "Do you really think that either (a) Uncle Sam will reimburse me at the Ritz-Carlton's rates, or (b) that I make enough to pay the difference out of my own pocket?

        Another nice thing about working for Uncle Sam.  I was one of the people who worked on the early stages of the tobacco litigation.  All of the partners from the big law firms representing Big Tobacco at the first meeting of counsel were middle-aged to older white guys.  On Uncle Sam's side of the table, the only two people who fit that description were one of my two bosses and I.  Otherwise, we had African-Americans (including a woman who was one of my two bosses), Asian-Americans, women, you name it.  It's a lot more fun to work in a more diverse group that's representing the public.

        PROUD to be a Democrat!

        by leevank on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 09:48:02 AM PST

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    •  That would depend on the worker (7+ / 0-)

      Why do workers ever take a job that pays less than the maximum they could possibly receive? For any number of reasons. I can only speak for myself. I like feeling as though I am serving my community rather than enriching some fat cat. I like that I am helping kids and families, especially the poor. I like the guys I work with. And in today's economy, I really like the job security.

      I don't think I'll be working here until I retire, but it is something I feel proud to have on my resume.

    •  I served my early adult life in the military... (4+ / 0-)
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      I wanted to continue to serve my country. Being a federal employee is how I do that.

      It isn't about the money. I admit, that I traded a lucrative career in the private sector for a job that is more secure and more fulfilling.

      "There's room at the top they're telling you still...A working class hero is something to be If you want to be a hero well just follow me." Working Class Hero-John Lennon

      by p a roberson on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 01:42:31 PM PST

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    •  for us: health insurance, family leave, security (1+ / 0-)
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      I have an nasty cancer (not that there's a nice one) that keeps coming back, and back, and back.

      My family needed a job for our breadwinner that was secure (as in, we'll be here next week) --we both lost our jobs in Sept. 2011 and it was a scary, tough time.
      We need good health benefits and an ACTUAL (as opposed to a facade of a) functioning family leave policy--one that acknowledges the stress our family is always under and works with us on short notice.

      The added plus is that there is a truly diverse workforce: the feds seem to be committed to equal opportunities, if you can imagine.

      My husb. thinks he's paid fairly for the level of work he does. He likes his boss. He gets to leave on time 247/250 days a year.

      So, of course Republicans want to take that away.

      •  FMLA is the law...can't be rejected (1+ / 0-)
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        If you or a family member aren't offered FMLA, your employer..whether it be the government or private business...is breaking the law.

        It's a wonderful law.  You can imagine it wasn't something republicans, at least not many republicans, were in favor of.

        - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

        by r2did2 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 02:09:21 PM PST

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        •  can't be rejected, but they can f* around w you (0+ / 0-)

          a lot.

          The last time I was hospitalized, I had about a 30hr. warning. NOT many employers are willing to accommodate taking days here and there, on short notice. It isn't like a pregnancy, where I know in advance (mostly) when I'll be gone, and for how long. When I was on a difficult chemo, I couldn't predict at all whether or not I'd need help at home and there isn't anyway we could have afforded to hire someone.

          They will give lip service and minimal compliance, but they'll be looking for other ways to replace you.

    •  And because (0+ / 0-)

      As an RN I wanted to care for veterans. My pay is no better than MNA. (MNA nurses in MN have a DB pension plus better health care.)

      I have a friend who works for one of the large private hospital systems. She picks up a $100 bonus for every extra shift that she takes. (Plus base pay for hours worked.)

      At the VA I make about $3 an hour less than her plus I have lower quality benefits. I am not going to leave the VA but I can attest that as a skilled professional I am making less than a similarly skilled nurse in the private sector.

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