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  •  I disagree, and I think you will be proven wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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    Korkenzieher

    It wasn't hopeless when the international community first went there in 2001, it just seemed hopeless in 2009, after 8 years of the international community having no coordinated, concerted plan for rebuilding the country.

    I also used to think that it was hopeless (as I thought we had missed the window of opportunity) and was skeptical of Obama's plans for Afghanistan, but the last couple of years have proven that there is hope and that the Afghan people now just might turn the corner.

    The biggest factor in this change probably wasn't the surge of U.S. troops, but the establishment of Nato Training Mission Afghanistan and the resulting surge in the training of Afghan Security Forces, which led to a tremendous surge in the quantity and quality of the Afghan forces.

    It is now probably not unrealistic to think that Afghans will be able to handle things mostly on their own in 2014, when Karzai will be replaced in the next Afghan presidential election and when ISAF combat troops leave the country.

    If you want to fully understand the massive changes that have taken place in Afghanistan, you probably need to examine what NTM-A has been doing there.  In this day and age of the internet that is actually pretty easy to do:

    http://ntm-a.com/...

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Wed Feb 01, 2012 at 05:28:45 AM PST

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    •  Speaking of NATO... (1+ / 0-)
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      Here's a report from the BBC that is, to put it mildly, a bit more pessimistic than you are.

      NATO report on Taliban

      As I said, I'll be delighted if you're right and I'm wrong.

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      by Korkenzieher on Wed Feb 01, 2012 at 11:36:52 AM PST

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      •  Hm, interesting.... (1+ / 0-)
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        I've become pretty cautious about what Western media report about Islamic countries since the Libyan Revolution, though, as I've noticed that they, at times, paint a far more bleaker picture than the situation on the ground actually is.

        And the fact is that ISAF, civilian, and Afghan National Security force casualties all dropped last year:

        http://tolonews.com/...

        Couple that with the fact that the Taliban are not exactly popular with the vast majority of Afghans, and the picture there looks better than is often portrayed in the media.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Wed Feb 01, 2012 at 06:57:26 PM PST

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