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  •  Vinehout's 2 Amendments need explanation (1+ / 0-)
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    I saw Senator Vinehout speak at the People's Legislature today, but don't know much about her.  2 amendments she wrote in 2008 are making the rounds in the Twitterverse:

    Senator Vinehout Turns Her Back on Wisconsin Women


    I'll be clear: I will not support anyone who restricts a woman's access to birth control and that includes Plan b.

    Since this press release is from 2008, I have written to Senator Vinehout at her campaign email address,, and asked that she publicly state her current position on her 2 amendments.

    "We are slow to realize that democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle." ~ "Fighting Bob" - Robert M. LaFollette Sr.

    by Sand Hill Crane on Thu Feb 02, 2012 at 12:47:24 AM PST

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      you will probably not support any candidate we put up. They are virtually across the board pro-life, Wisconsin is a pro-life state and even many stalwart members of the state's left are pro-life (Vinehout is actually a good example of this) pro-choice candidates would probably not be credible in terms of fundraising or electability (Feingold, who's said he positively won't run, might be the one exception), that's not to try to say women's rights are something that can just be ignored or passed-over like "oh well, that candidate might not be as electable" but I personally just don't think it matters.

      Vinehout is probably the most earnestly pro-life of the candidates we could put up, but even were she to be elected I would have little or no concern, I don't see how anyone could fail to see that abortion issues would simply not be on the next (D) Governors agenda. Robert M. LaFollette Sr. whom you quote in your signature line was also pro-life (among many other regressive stances for that matter) but did many great things for the state of Wisconsin, advancing causes like the first real worker's compensation program and the minimum wage, or his ingenious rail reforms. I'm not going to compare Sen. Vinehout to "Fighting Bob" but I do think she'd be an effective Governor and has a solid record of liberalism in the areas where it actually is going to matter in the next Governorship, such as the economy, and environmentalism. I would obviously also prefer to see a pro-choice candidate (of course) but I don't think it's something we should follow off of a cliff.

      (-7.62, -6.31), Blood type "O", Democratic-socialist, social anarchist, KY-01, "When smashing monuments, save the pedestals. They always come in handy." — Stanisław Lem

      by Setsuna Mudo on Thu Feb 02, 2012 at 05:33:03 AM PST

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      •  How is she on education? (0+ / 0-)
      •  I am not sure that abortion issues will not be on (1+ / 0-)
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        the next governors agenda.  I think she will have to explain these amendments. Wisconsin may be a pro life state, but many people appear to be using birth control.  I am not sure I like the hyocrisy.  Are we all against birth control in theory? I don't see so many big families anymore.

      •  Vinehout recently said, (4+ / 0-)

        "Abortion should be legal, safe, and rare." Now, I am a male, but from what glean from Wisconsinites is that they are not really in favor of abortions themselves, but birth control pills are ok. They see abortions as "killing babies", but birth control pills just prevent babies from happening.

        My personal opinion is that I oppose abortion, but if a woman wants to have one, who am I to get in their way? If I had a daughter, and she got pregnant by accident, I would encourage her not to have an abortion, and to put the baby up for adoption. But, if she really wanted an abortion, I would not stand in her way, and I would still love her just the same.

        Farm boy who hit the city to go to college, WI-03 (home, voting), WI-02 (college), -7.88, -4.26, One in ONE MILLION that recalled Scott Walker!!!!

        by WisJohn on Thu Feb 02, 2012 at 11:10:36 AM PST

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    •  This is very disturbing. (1+ / 0-)
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      I did hear her say that she is pro-choice, and abortions should be "safe, legal and rare."  So I was satisfied by that.  But this is news to me and I would like to hear if she still supports allowing pharmacists not to dispense birth control, for f's sake.

      Walker, your pink slip is coming, unless the orange jumpsuit gets you first.

      by non acquiescer on Thu Feb 02, 2012 at 12:21:44 PM PST

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    •  See Sen. Vinehout's comments on this (1+ / 0-)
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      that I included in the update.

      Her amendment was to require a pharmacy to dispense birth control/Plan B/etc., not necessarily an individual pharmacist. That is, if a woman came in to a licensed pharmacy with a prescription, she should get it filled - it was up to the business (pharmacy) to make sure that happened on that site. Her rationale was that she felt that requiring the pharmacist (individual) to do it might violate a clause of the Wisconsin Constitution.

      The next year, the bill passed with the language that Sen. Vinehout introduced, with Sen. Vinehout's vote and with Planned Parenthood's approval.

      Listen to the link.

      I'm satisfied.

      The Will of the People shall be the Law of the Land. - Robert M. LaFollette

      by stcroix cheesehead on Thu Feb 02, 2012 at 07:23:55 PM PST

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