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    •  well they're claiming the new job numbers are (8+ / 0-)

      made up.  Because if the Obama administration is making up jobs numbers they wouldn't have started years ago, when things were really bad.

      I changed by not changing at all, small town predicts my fate, perhaps that's what no one wants to see. -6.38, -4.15

      by James Allen on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 01:29:35 PM PST

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    •  No they'll just claim Obama is directing more (6+ / 0-)

      jobs to Democratic states. I heard someone say this when I credited Obama with saving the auto industry and Michigan. You can't win with them.

      -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

      by dopper0189 on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 02:59:03 PM PST

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      •  No, you can't. (1+ / 0-)
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        The importance of reasoned and substantiated argument is a liberal preoccupation, but with the right it's all about tactical advantage. If an argument will crush your opponent, fine. Otherwise, inflammatory rhetoric, flagrant demagogy, race-baiting, or outright lies will do just fine, thank you. Whatever works. For the right, one tactic has no intrinsic superiority over the other, and, sadly, the press doesn't penalize them for that position.

        "It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." George Carlin

        by psnyder on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:04:10 PM PST

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    •  Here are the numbers for the change in rate (2+ / 0-)
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      Party Dec 2010 Avg Dec 2011 Avg Avg Change
      Democratic 8.6% 7.9% -0.72%
      Republican 8.4% 7.5% -0.87%
      Independent 11.5% 10.8% -0.7%
      Note: This isn't a per capita rate.

      The republicans do have a slight advantage. I'm a democrat, but I think we should get our facts straight.

      Here is the raw data:

      State Party Dec 2010 Dec 2011 Change Population
      NEVADA Republican 14.9 12.6 -2.3 2723322
      FLORIDA Republican 12 9.9 -2.1 19057542
      NEW MEXICO Republican 8.6 6.6 -2 2082224
      MICHIGAN Republican 11.1 9.3 -1.8 9876187
      WEST VIRGINIA Democratic 9.7 7.9 -1.8 1855364
      OREGON Democratic 10.6 8.9 -1.7 3871859
      MISSOURI Democratic 9.6 8 -1.6 6010688
      MASSACHUSETTS Democratic 8.3 6.8 -1.5 6587536
      UTAH Republican 7.5 6 -1.5 2817222
      SOUTH CAROLINA Republican 10.9 9.5 -1.4 4679230
      CALIFORNIA Democratic 12.5 11.1 -1.4 37691912
      OHIO Republican 9.5 8.1 -1.4 11544951
      IDAHO Republican 9.7 8.4 -1.3 1584985
      MINNESOTA Democratic 6.9 5.7 -1.2 5344861
      KENTUCKY Democratic 10.3 9.1 -1.2 4369356
      DELAWARE Democratic 8.5 7.4 -1.1 907135
      ALABAMA Republican 9.1 8.1 -1 4802740
      COLORADO Democratic 8.9 7.9 -1 5116769
      ARIZONA Republican 9.6 8.7 -0.9 6482505
      LOUISIANA Republican 7.7 6.8 -0.9 4574836
      PENNSYLVANIA Republican 8.5 7.6 -0.9 12742886
      CONNECTICUT Democratic 9 8.2 -0.8 3580709
      WASHINGTON Democratic 9.3 8.5 -0.8 6830038
      RHODE ISLAND Independent 11.5 10.8 -0.7 1051302
      GEORGIA Republican 10.4 9.7 -0.7 9815210
      MARYLAND Democratic 7.4 6.7 -0.7 5828289
      TENNESSEE Republican 9.4 8.7 -0.7 6403353
      VERMONT Democratic 5.8 5.1 -0.7 626431
      OKLAHOMA Republican 6.8 6.1 -0.7 3791508
      ALASKA Republican 7.9 7.3 -0.6 722718
      MONTANA Democratic 7.4 6.8 -0.6 998199
      WYOMING Republican 6.4 5.8 -0.6 568158
      NORTH DAKOTA Republican 3.8 3.3 -0.5 683932
      SOUTH DAKOTA Republican 4.7 4.2 -0.5 824082
      NEW HAMPSHIRE Democratic 5.6 5.1 -0.5 1318194
      KANSAS Republican 6.8 6.3 -0.5 2871238
      IOWA Republican 6.1 5.6 -0.5 3062309
      INDIANA Republican 9.5 9 -0.5 6516922
      TEXAS Republican 8.3 7.8 -0.5 25674681
      MAINE Republican 7.5 7 -0.5 1328188
      VIRGINIA Republican 6.6 6.2 -0.4 8096604
      WISCONSIN Republican 7.5 7.1 -0.4 5711767
      ARKANSAS Democratic 7.9 7.7 -0.2 2937979
      NEBRASKA Republican 4.3 4.1 -0.2 1842641
      NEW YORK Democratic 8.2 8 -0.2 19465197
      NEW JERSEY Republican 9.1 9 -0.1 8821155
      NORTH CAROLINA Democratic 9.8 9.9 0.1 9656401
      MISSISSIPPI Republican 10.2 10.4 0.2 2978512
      HAWAII Democratic 6.3 6.6 0.3 1374810
      ILLINOIS Democratic 9.2 9.8 0.6 12869257
      DC Democratic 9.6 10.4 0.8 617996
      •  I'm not going to do the stats on this mess of (1+ / 0-)
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        numbers, but I bet that the means are statistically indistinguishable if the values you have at the top are correct. Since you've already got the numbers, why not do a diamond plot with means, 95% CI and grand mean. That will say much more than just stating that the Republicans have a slight advantage. I'm betting there is no discernible advantage.

      •  Here are the weighted averages (0+ / 0-)

        Democrat (includes DC)
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        Dec 2010 Avg: 9.76%
        Dec 2011 Avg: 8.97%
        Avg Change: -0.79%
        Avg Population: 6,564,713
        Count: 21

        Republican
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        Dec 2010 Avg: 9.18%
        Dec 2011 Avg: 8.23%
        Avg Change: -0.95%
        Avg Population: 5,954,538
        Count: 29

        Independent
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        Dec 2010 Avg: 11.5%
        Dec 2011 Avg: 10.8%
        Avg Change: -0.7%
        Count: 1

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