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  •  Even if true that this is a reaction... (15+ / 0-)

    ...of someone still in the closet, I hate it when that comes up in these instances.  Yeah, I understand the delight in the potential irony, but I think it distracts from the real issue: that calls to violence against gays or against anyone is flat-out wrong.  Anytime we permit that light we shine upon a wrong to lose its focus we extend the time it will take to make that wrong unacceptable in any context or company.

    Not criticising you, Scott; it's just a peeve of mine.

    •  Well, I agree... (10+ / 0-)

      which is why I didn't include those thoughts in my diary.

      Still, not every virulent homophobe is a closet case, but many turn out to be. And Roland fits the profile of an obsessed, religious fanatic.

    •  No, I think the self hate is the real issue (10+ / 0-)

      Do you want to shine a light on the problem or not?  The issue here is that Roland Martin saw a TV commercial with a man in his underwear and the first thought in his head was to tweet "If anyone around you gets aroused by guys in underwear, beat him good".

      Now why in the hell would anyone say something like that?  If Martin has openly gay friends, why would he care if they get aroused by it?  How does it affect him?  He didn't make any warnings over women getting aroused.  Wouldn't aroused women at a party be more of a threat to a straight man, then an aroused gay man?

      Now given his attitudes towards gays, I do not believe Martin has any openly gay friends.  So why would a man who is secure in his heterosexuality, surrounded by non-gays, feel compelled to warn all the straights around him not to get sexually aroused by a man's ass?

      Could it be that if one of his "straight" friends dared to come out of the closet, that Martin would feel pressured to do the same?  If being gay was legal and accepted, then why would they deny themselves happiness?

      The reason why repressed, closeted, gay Republicans support legal bans and violence isn't to punish those who are out.  It's to keep themselves in.

      •  Disagree. (4+ / 0-)

        Highlighting the hypocrisy, even if it indicates self-hate, draws attention to the lesser problem: one man's personal sexual issues or one man's inability to hold a consistent belief.  The bigger issue in my opinion is this man's greater hatred toward a significant percentage of society and his potential (and desire) to urge violence upon them.  If he's uncomfortable with his own sexuality (assuming for argument that it's homosexual), that's sad, but it doesn't endanger others.

        •  The hatred toward a significant percentage of (3+ / 0-)
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          society is rooted in personal sexual issues.

          Rule of thumb: If it's advertised on TV, you probably shouldn't buy it.

          by VictorLaszlo on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 05:27:17 PM PST

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        •  But WHY does he have hatred? From where? (0+ / 0-)

          You say the bigger issue is his greater hatred towards others, gays. But why? Why does he hate? Why does he feel personally threatened by gays? Why does he lash out at something that is truly none of his business?

          You say that his being uncomfortable with his sexuality doesn't endanger others. But I think it's the source of his rage and hatred. Hate is a powerful emotion, it doesn't come from a vaccum. If Martin HATES gays, hates them with passion and anger to the point that he is urging violence, there is a reason.

          No one can point to anything in the "homosexual agenda" that takes freedom away from anyone, that imposes any action on anyone, that forces a religious person to do anything except treat their neighbors with respect. There is no basis for violence, none.

          How do you explain it otherwise?

    •  Totally agree. The irony is appealing, and (5+ / 0-)

      it's often true, but taken to the extreme -- ALL homophobes are latent queers -- it creates this absurd fantasy that heterosexuals are not homophobic and not responsible for their homophobia.

      "In America racism is a misdemeanor. Noticing racism is a felony" -- Max Minton

      by teachme2night on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:29:30 AM PST

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