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  •  The Sole Way to Get That Message Out Is to Be (8+ / 0-)

    non violent to a fault, including even verbal responses.

    Gandhi and King laid this out and their followers practiced it en masse in the course of achieving victories neither society had any reason to expect.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 06:49:45 PM PST

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    •  The fact of the matter is that (6+ / 0-)

      that ship has sailed in Oakland.  People aren't going back to being passive, and anything except for being passive is what the media, and even some people here, call violence.  The fact of the matter is that the power that be know how to deal with non-violence.  They have for quite a while.  Despite what we may all wish.

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 07:02:23 PM PST

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      •  Non-violence is not passive. (6+ / 0-)

        It is affirmative and strategic, and has proven to far more effective than "diversity of tactics."

        •  I agree with this to some extent (4+ / 0-)

          First, you are completely right about non-violence not being passive.  Non-violence isn't passive resistance, and a lot of people in the US don't realize that.

          Second, I feel like "diversity of tactics" is a loaded phrase now.  What it actually means is that we need a broad spectrum of tactics to achieve a goal, from illegal protest to court cases.  It's been coopted by some people to mean that they can do whatever they want whenever they want at a protest and people have to support it because of diversity of tactics.  That was never the way it was intended to be used.  It was suppose to be a way for a broad spectrum of people to work together on an issue without huge conflicts coming up.  For a while in the nineties, and probably before, there were groups that would argue that their way was "The Way" that would lead to change.  You still see those folks here arguing that protest is useless unless those people protesting do GOTV or phone banking.  This is bullshit as far as I'm concerned.  There are a lot of people who have moved our country to a better place that never registered a single person to vote or never canvassed.  At the same time, there are people who say that anyone who votes at all are dumb and are wasting their time.  What the idea of diversity of tactics is suppose to recognize is that there are different ways to effect change and that they are complimentary.  Just because, hypothetically, I'm not voting or doing GOTV, both of which I do, and instead am locking down on some equipment that is going to build a coal powered plant doesn't mean that I am impeding change.  There is no one way to make change, there are many ways that we can make change.

          There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:14:34 PM PST

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      •  The powers that be (2+ / 0-)
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        know a lot more about how to handle violence. That's why they keep trying to push the protests (and spin the media coverage) in that direction. It's their comfort zone.

        Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

        by Nowhere Man on Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 05:13:44 AM PST

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