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  •  I think times have changed. (8+ / 0-)

    I remember having many friends who were police officers and they were good and decent people.  They took the job to make a difference -- for the good.   They took pride in their work and did their jobs well.

    I can't explain what's happened since then.  I have to, want to believe that it's not the making of the street cops but their commanders who are run by politicians and those political civilians who gained their power via the Peter Principle.  I don't know.  I'd like to think that.

    I'm positive, though, that the people who are in charge of the street cops and the people who are in charge of the people who are in charge of the street cops make the rules, set the agenda, and the "employees" just follow their pathetic lead.  (I'm not positive, but again, I'd like to think that)

    We delivered. They failed us. We have moved on. (h/t to my good friend)

    by gooderservice on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:34:50 PM PST

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    •  I know in the 90's the good officers were being (10+ / 0-)

      driven out by the Blue Wall.

      Honest cops need not apply.

      Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:37:14 PM PST

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    •  Yeah... (6+ / 0-)
      "and the 'employees' just follow their pathetic lead."

      I'm sure that's true of many cops. They don't really, deep down inside, WANT to be doing what they're doing. But orders are orders, after all. Just "doing their job".

      Well, I don't know if anyone will agree with me, but here's my opinion on that:

      I have no respect for those at the top who have no morality, and give evil orders. But I may have even LESS respect for those who KNOW it's wrong to follow those evil orders, and follow them just the same. (And no, I'm not just talking about cops here.)

      "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

      by ratmach on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:58:13 PM PST

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      •  I don't know (6+ / 0-)

        In terms of percentage the numbers of street cops that quit because of illegal or bad orders is far larger than the number of higher ups that quit because they feel like they have to give bad orders. Add to that the fact that the higher ups make a lot of money and don't have to worry about supporting their family like the beat cops do and I end up blaming the people in charge more. Not that I think the rank and file is blameless, far from it.

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:48:56 PM PST

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    •  1994: "You're all animals." (27+ / 0-)

      That's what a NYPD cop who happened to be my ex-sister-in-law's brother, said. He came to our apartment, in uniform, and instead of asking the doorman to see if we were home, he told the doorman he was here to arrest my wife. The doorman, of course, took it seriously and let him up without calling us. We got a knock on the door and in his very loud NYC cop voice started yelling POLICE!! OPEN THE DOOR!!.

      Half of my neighbors came opened the door to see what was going on. I looked through the peep-hole and saw that it was him and opened the door. He had his gun out, loaded, and pointed it at my face.

      I put my hands up while my wife started screaming at him to put it away. He just laughed and thought the whole thing was hilarious.

      About twenty minutes later, after I calmed down and my wife finished screaming at him, he finally "apologized". I was never more scared for my life or more angry at anyone than that night. His apology left much to be desired, but I decided that since we hadn't been married that long (2 years) I should just try to keep things calm.

      He stayed for a few minutes longer and then said, "Well, gotta go. Time to round up the animals." I asked him what he meant. He said, "You know, everyone." I said, "Everyone who? Who is everyone?" He said "Everyone in this god damn city." My wife, his sister-in-law, said "You mean everyone who lives in New York City? Like me, my brother, your sister?"

      He said, "Yeah. You're all animals. What else could you be living in this shit-hole." It was said with disdain and a strong feeling of hostility. My ex-sister-in-law was furious with him when she found out and she told us she wasn't surprised. Her brother, the cop, had never lived in NYC and like so many NYC cops, he lived in Rockland County. She also said that his cop friends were basically just like him. The thought that anyone, rich, poor, black, white, whatever, if they lived in NYC they had to be crazy and often referred to us as animals. But that they also joked "just don't kill the white ones".

      So I don't know how much has changed. Maybe they're just feeling free to be more obvious about it.

      Would we be so happy to have a military that dwarfs all others combined if it was a line item deduction on our paychecks next to FICA."

      by Back In Blue on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 09:44:48 PM PST

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    •  Amy Goodman had on a documentarian (9+ / 0-)

      of the drug war last week. One of his subjects pointed out that the War on Drugs rewards the wrong things in police work.

      The cop who busts a casual drug user gets overtime writing up the paperwork, and gets more hours. He's done good by busting a user, so he's rewarded. And it undermines actual good police work -- things that make people safer.

      If the system of rewards and punishments rewards bad behavior, well guess what you're going to get?

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