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  •  Yeah and your organization gets millions of (4+ / 0-)

    dollars from the government to do it. So, that's not really "free" coverage.

    And this was a compromise already. I'll be pissed if they compromise again to please some old white men.

    President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

    by askew on Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 10:14:12 AM PST

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    •  They would be pleasing a majority of Catholic (0+ / 0-)

      voters who oppose the rule.

      Key word, voters.

      •  That is a horrible reason for changing this rule. (0+ / 0-)

        President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

        by askew on Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 01:07:03 PM PST

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      •  Who would otherwise vote for whom? Romney? (1+ / 0-)
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        Who's healthcare system (Romney Care) requires not only the same thing but also abortion services?

        The Romney whose flip-flops on pro-choice/anti-choice make Kerry look like the Rock of Gibralter.

        They would vote for Romney over Obama based on this?

        When their own actions and own health and financial welfare (including the many, many Catholics who say one thing and do another on this issue) would be negatively impacted if the rule was undone?

        The time has come to put the "Occ" in "DemOCCracy". Support (or create) the "Occupy" movement near you. Ordinary Citizens Count in this extraordinary Democcracy.

        by Into The Woods on Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 02:43:57 PM PST

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      •  And what of the people who work for the (1+ / 0-)
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        organization, some of whom may not be Catholic and some of whom may be Catholic but may not agree with the bishops on birth control? What of their right to the same health care that everyone else in the country can have? Or do we just say that no one can get birth control covered?

        The law says that insurance companies have to include birth control with no copay. The Catholic-affiliated hospitals and universities aren't providing contraception. They're providing insurance. The insurance companies need to follow the law of the land.

    •  so askew, you would prefer (0+ / 0-)

      that we go after people's wages and homes when they can't afford to pay?

      what you actually meant to say was that, in my hospitals case, about 70% of the monies we collect comes from Medicare and Medicaid. the balance from private insurance, like Blue Cross, etc.

      Re-elect Barack Obama and elect Elizabeth Warren

      by al23 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 05:31:42 PM PST

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    •  sorry Askew (0+ / 0-)

      it is uncompensated. That means we get nothing from the state or the federal government. nothing. Your average, for profit hospital or many non profits have no problem going after your home or income in court. We don't do that.

      For example, at my place we have a dental surgery clinic. We get folks from all over, because they know we will provide the care, regardless of their ability to pay. You might brush this off, but if it was your jaw that was being wired for free, you'd be pretty damn grateful

      Re-elect Barack Obama and elect Elizabeth Warren

      by al23 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 05:44:28 PM PST

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      •  I just don't get the point of this. This seems (1+ / 0-)
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        like a defense against what the bishops have characterized as "an attack on the church." No one is attacking the church. What the Obama administration is trying to do is to make sure women can get health care.

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