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  •  But you wrote... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...leaving behind the students that do not meet any of those standards, causing further deterioration of the traditional school system.

    Some "virtue". It's a "virtue" for individuals, and a "sin" for society.

    I took that to mean that you believe that removing well-prepared kids "deteriorates" the traditional school system. Maybe it does. But aren't you asking a lot of those kids, if you tell them that they must return to the Bad School so it won't become a Worse School?

    You write:

    "Your arguments all center on how an individual child should be entitled to a quality education, even at the expense of others."

    And here we get to The Real Issue. Reverse your statement. You want certain individual children to have lower-quality educations because (you believe) it will help other children, or "society".

    That's OK. All members of a community should be prepared to sacrifice something for the greater good. I'm prepared to do my bit! But you are not asking for all members to sacrifice. The sacrifice is borne only by those who are not rich enough to afford suburban real estate or private tuition.

    The Bush Twins and Obama girls are not asked to sacrifice. There is no sacrifice Scarsdale or in the wealthy areas of NJ and CT. Only inner-city parents must make this sacrifice. Only inner-city parents are expected to stay in bad schools because they are needed to slow the "deterioration"

    It's not fair!

    So, like I said. When the Romney family enrolls their kids in my local NYC School, I'm there. But until then, I gotta look out for my daughter. Somebody has to look after her and I damn sure can't trust the NEA to do it...

    •  Still carrying on an argument with the wrong guy. (0+ / 0-)
      It is the comment of cermakRd.

      My addition simply furthered his assertion to its logical conclusion. Take your argument up with him, if you wish.

      As for your fresh misreadings...
      You write:

      "Your arguments all center on how an individual child should be entitled to a quality education, even at the expense of others."

      And here we get to The Real Issue. Reverse your statement. You want certain individual children to have lower-quality educations because (you believe) it will help other children, or "society".

      You seem to be mistaking my characterization of your position as my actual position.

      I suggest you re-read the things you comment on, before you comment. You have a habit of misinterpreting, at best.

      If I actually thought that was the case, I would be arguing that charters and other alternative education solutions actually consistently provided a better education than traditional public schools. Does that seem to be what I argue?

      Of course not. Your own comments acknowledge that the best study shows only 17% of charters providing a "better" education, and 37% of charters providing a "worse" education.

      And it's not your personal situation I care about, although I'm sure you do. It's that you constantly drum for support for everyone else to desert regular schools for charters - making it a larger issue than you and your daughter. You're certainly entitled to espouse your beliefs - but don't be surprised when others disagree.

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