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  •  Nah, I'm your basic middle of the road Dem (0+ / 0-)

    Never voted for a R*p*bl*c*n in my life; never will.

    It's just that, in contrast to people such as you who never think about why you don't try leaving a restaurant without paying, I actually ask myself why I shouldn't try sneaking out and then, if I'm caught, apologizing profusely and paying up immediately -- and if I'm not caught, getting away with eating for free. Or, in contrast to people such as you, I ask myself why I should tell the truth instead of telling everyone else to tell the truth while lying myself.

    What is the basis for doing what I do? Genes? Social order? What do you think? Have you ever asked yourself these questions instead of just going through the motions?

    •  I have no idea what you're talking about (1+ / 0-)
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      If you want to have a debate about the source of morality, I'm not interested and this isn't the right place to have it. I myself see absolutely no need for a god or a divine mandate to grasp the basic rules of morality that span all times and places and which to me seem intuitive. I don't need a god--nor does anyone else who's not a sociopath--to intuitively grasp the golden rule, the basis of all morality.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Wed Feb 08, 2012 at 12:29:28 PM PST

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      •  I'm not interested either (0+ / 0-)

        But you're the one who called people such as me an idiot, a nutcase, or a liar.

        For you, all answers are obvious or, using your word, "intuitive."

        I merely suggest you consider the basis for that. If the Golden Rule is so intuitive, how do we explain conservatives? They sure as hell don't live by it.

        •  So you base your politics on what you think god (0+ / 0-)

          wants it to be and are surprised that I place you into one of these categories? What about people who believe that god wants them to kill infidels? Does that make their "morality" ok? And what if you found out there was no god? What, your entire moral system collapses? You need god to know that murder and oppression are wrong? That's just sad.

          Morality is treating people as you want them to treat you. Always was, always will be. God just reinforces it--for some. But if one cannot intuit the golden rule, one is, by every definition, a sociopath. Look it up.

          And conservatives--modern, movement conservatives, not Burkian or other conservatives--are, through their words and actions, functional sociopaths. THAT is what they intuit--harming and exploiting others.

          And unsurprisingly, many of them also invoke god to defend this.


          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 09:12:44 PM PST

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