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  •  Instead of dismissing him (3+ / 0-)

    I'd hope they urge him to use this "time out" to reassess his views on gays and work up some sort of genuine apology that he can and must issue before being allowed back on air. I strongly believe in giving people a second chance. Learning from our mistakes is how most of us mature and become fuller human beings. I'm less interested in piling on Martin than in using this to make him a better person and making it even less acceptable to pile on gays in our media and culture.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Wed Feb 08, 2012 at 02:37:24 PM PST

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    •  won't happen (4+ / 0-)
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      unless his church- his wife- changes view. the way these incidents keep happening, it's obvious that martin is a viceral gut-level bigot. his religious beliefs give him an excuse for it, but it's more personal. it almost certainly will take something more profound than a time-out from cnn to inspire the depth of soul-searching he needs.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Wed Feb 08, 2012 at 02:51:02 PM PST

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      •  If so, then he must be fired, period (3+ / 0-)
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        I don't care who you are, what your religion or skin color, what you'd done or accomplished in your life. If you express bigoted views in the media, you need to be dismissed, or your employee cannot be considered to be legitimate media.

        This is Al Campanis--an otherwise decent-seeming and accomplished man--all over again, in a new but really exactly the same guise.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Wed Feb 08, 2012 at 02:54:02 PM PST

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        •  and that's what i meant upthread (3+ / 0-)
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          there is a toxic homophobia in some otherwise liberal religious communities. it's well past time for it to be dealt with. no excuses.

          The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

          by Laurence Lewis on Wed Feb 08, 2012 at 03:00:30 PM PST

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        •  I saw Michael Steele, the RNC apologist on MSNBC (0+ / 0-)

          get all high and mighty about the comparison between discrimination against black people and discrimination against gays with a bogus argument that you could identify blacks just by walking into a room, but you could not tell gays unless they self-identified. An my response to his bigotry would be yeah, so ??? It takes you a little longer to identify gay people so it's OK to legally discriminate against them? The bigotry is so transparent, yet people like Steele bristle at the comparison. I just don't get it.

          And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

          by MrJersey on Wed Feb 08, 2012 at 08:32:29 PM PST

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          •  it was absurd. But, it was Steele (0+ / 0-)

            is he ever not an idiot? So if I hate Christians, it's fine. They can just pretend to be atheists around me. As long as I don't know they are Christians I won't discriminate against them.

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