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  •  ask and yee shall receive (0+ / 0-)

    NIH study on effects of prayer

    NIH Study: Prayer

    Coronary care unit patients, positive outcome

    Patient and suplicant unknown to each other

    Since it's faith, they don't know why

    Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living~~Mother Jones

    by CA Berkeley WV on Sat Feb 11, 2012 at 09:04:20 AM PST

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    •  uh... (0+ / 0-)

      Looking at that data (and the link sucks), those numbers really don't prove anything. Also, I think I'd like to know what the "usual care group" is, and if their actions could have had a negative impact on care.

    •  Full of flaws. (0+ / 0-)

      To see a few, see the article here.

      The money quote:

      The most recent study, and, I believe, the best designed one, was published in the Mayo Clinic Proceedings in December, 2001, and was entitled “Intercessory Prayer and Cardiovascular Disease Progression in a Coronary Care Unit Population: A Randomized Controlled Trial.” This third “gold standard” study should settle the matter once and for all scientifically. The investigators that wrote the study were Jennifer M. Aviles, MD and six others. This trial was done on patients immediately after discharge from the Coronary Care Unit, a time when the intensity of extraneous intercessory praying by family and friends would generally be waning.

      Here is their summary of the findings: “Patients and Methods: In this randomized controlled trial conducted between 1997 and 1999, a total of 799 coronary care unit patients were randomized at hospital discharge to the intercessory prayer group or to the control group. … The primary end point after 26 weeks was any of the following: death, cardiac arrest, rehospitalization for cardiovascular disease, coronary revascularization, or an emergency department visit for cardiovascular disease. Patients were divided into a high-group based on the presence of any of 5 risk factors (age > or = 70 years, diabetes mellitus, prior myocardial infarction, cerebrovascular disease, or peripheral vascular disease) or a low-risk group (absence of risk factors) for subsequent primary events.” The investigators summarized their findings as follows: “Conclusions: As delivered in this study, intercessory prayer had no significant effect on medical outcomes after hospitalization in a coronary care unit.” Not even one difference showed up between the control group and the prayed-for group.

      Bottom line: intercessory prayer does not work.

      "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson

      by rfall on Sat Feb 11, 2012 at 04:27:05 PM PST

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    •  nope (0+ / 0-)

      http://www.nytimes.com/...

      Prayers offered by strangers had no effect on the recovery of people who were undergoing heart surgery, a large and long-awaited study has found.

      And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps because of the expectations the prayers created, the researchers suggested.

      Because it is the most scientifically rigorous investigation of whether prayer can heal illness, the study, begun almost a decade ago and involving more than 1,800 patients, has for years been the subject of speculation.

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