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  •  May It Hold When It's Wishywashy Repub vs (6+ / 0-)

    Barack Hussatan Osama in November.

    Gotta figure there's going to be rebound. The right never leaves its base unmotivated. But this is great news so far.

    Can't wait to see the post birth control polling.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 11:00:02 AM PST

    •  They haz a sad about Rmoney.... n/t (5+ / 0-)

      Critical Thinking: The Other National Deficit.

      by cultjake on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 11:15:35 AM PST

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    •  I've also been waiting for some post-caucus (6+ / 0-)

      Santorum numbers for Arizona, and Michigan, where prior to Santorum's sweep earlier in the week, Romney was leading by 23% in Arizona polls and a litter under that in Michigan.

      But, this morning, someone in the Romney camp was trying to downplay expectations in AZ, and MI.  Not, that I favor Santorum, but all the media press that reports Mitt Romney's weakness, flat affect, lukewarm personality, inability to connect to voters, as if they were basic facts is so much more compelling than if we were trying to advance these same propositions from our campaign troops in the generals.

      We do have to be careful to assume a pro-longed GOP primary is disadvantageous, as we might see a simultaneous comfort factor, and slow-conversion affect, as the general public sees and hears, unopposed, the hard-core right wing zealotry as if they were mainstream accepted positions.  

      The CNN afternoon anchor reporting on the CPAP convention was almost giddy, after Mitt Romney's speech, saying "he had said 'all the right things,' and had thrown the CPAP participants the "red meat" they had wanted, with such an tacit implication that Romney had just scored a big victory and done something good.

      Her first guest commenter sobered her up a bit, when he more objectively pointed out that opposing choice, gay-marraige, Obamacare, all federal regulation, gutting social programs, and the other "exciting" read meat conservative touchstones Romney had just thrown will be problematic for him in the general elections.

      But, if we see a top-of-the-line professional, skeptical, journalist getting swept up in the "excitement" of the candidates trying to out-do each other in pleasing the far-right CPAP zealots, should we not be concerned about the affect on regular voters watching from home?

      Is it possible that some of the extreme positions we've struggled to "marginalize" over the last decades may be getting new acceptability, if not respectability?  Positions that most folks would not utter in public anymore, are being "mainstreamed" once again.

      It's a debatable proposition about how much a long, heavily fought out, GOP primary is a good thing for Democrats.  After six months of our Clinton-Obama battle, both, were seen as exceptionally strong, very familiar warriers for goodness, in a way the relatively paler McCain-Palin ticket had a challenging time catching up to in the GE.  

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 11:30:10 AM PST

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      •  It's Let Radical Memes Totally Dominate News and (3+ / 0-)
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        commentary for months, and will continue to into the summer.

        Although normal Democratic Party campaign messaging philosophy goes about 2/3 of the way in that direction anyway.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 12:00:55 PM PST

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      •  Here's the difference IMO (3+ / 0-)
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        The more people saw of both Obama & Clinton, the more people liked them. The more people see of these assclowns the LESS people like them...PARTICULARLY Mitt "Electable" Romney.

        The more they see of Newt, the more they see a fat blowhard who cheated on his wives while preaching "moral values" to everybody else & who's solution for the economy is hiring poor kids to work as janitors at his moon colony.

        The more they see of Santorum (sorry for the image) the more they see a guy who's answer to fixing the economy is hiring people to build prison camps for gay people and abortion providers.

        The more they see of Paul, the more they see of a guy in a tinfoil hat handing out LaRouche pamphlets in front of the local Arby's.

        The more they see of Mittens, the more they see the guy who fired them and foreclosed on their house but who STILL got his bonus. If the Monopoly guy and Thurston Howell III got it on and had a kid, it would be Mitt Romney.

        And that's in the GENERAL, where it REALLY counts. Let's not forget how many Republicans hate this field....particularly Mr Electable, Mittens Romney.

        A village can not reorganize village life to suit the village idiot.

        by METAL TREK on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 12:14:21 PM PST

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        •  Well, said METAL TREK, I mostly agree, and these (0+ / 0-)

          perceptions you express so well are what I mostly have been experiencing as I enjoy seeing the GOP candidates tear each other apart, and self-destruct.

          My commnet above was mostly just a cautionary note, so others like you could talk me down from anxiety, that these dastardly Republicans might find some way to take the White House, House, and Senate in the fall.  Something so disasterous, I hope you and others can forgive my moments of anxiety

          Perhaps, we can find better ways, to help steer the media narrative in your direction, rather than my worst case scenario?

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 12:37:11 PM PST

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    •  Obama could well toss it all away (0+ / 0-)

      That bump in Dem excitement is around the time that Obama started talking tough (e.g., the Osawatomie speech).  If his tough talk starts getting followed by his typical "any deal is better than no deal" compromises, he'll lose that momentum.  When your running for president the first time you just have to keep your story straight; the second time around you have to show that there's more to it then empty campaign promises—especially if that's what happened after you got elected the first time.   Last time I vote for Obama; this time I think I'll be voting against the GOP—from hope to fear ;-(


      My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
      Give 'em hell, Barry—Me

      by KingBolete on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 12:07:02 PM PST

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      •  I Choose To Disagree... (0+ / 0-)

        ...consider the possibility that President Obama just may be getting stronger, and sharper and smarter and more gutsy than he has been in the past.

        Of course that's clearly a stretch for you, but for the sake of our nation and of the world as a whole...I hope your take on the prez is mistaken.

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