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  •  I think this is a courageous move. (6+ / 0-)

    Finally, someone standing tall for Bradley Manning and shining a light on the complete injustice of our actions in imprisoning that man.  I have been a whistleblower and, let me tell you, they try to persecute you!  They tried to make my life a living hell.  I just gave it back to them, but it wasn't easy and took a toll.  I wouldn't have done it any other way, though.

    Hooray for the Oklahoma Peace Organization.

    love the fetus, hate the child

    by Raggedy Ann on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 02:03:35 PM PST

    •  RA - he has already been nominated (1+ / 0-)
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      by another group who I think was from Finland, but don't quote me on that one. If Manning did in fact release tens of thousands of classified documents he will go to prison for decades. Had he only released one or two documents or videos that were evidence of war crimes he would have a very valid whistle blower defense.  However, the size and scope of the disclosures have sealed his fate. He will be convicted at his court martial and then the appeal process will start. It has three or more steps in the military court system, but the final court of appeal is the SCOTUS and it will be interesting to see how they handle it.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 02:54:42 PM PST

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      •  Well, there are always consequences to our actions (0+ / 0-)

        Now, it will depend on whether he has regrets or not.  He, alone, has to live with his decision to release these documents.  I'm very happy he was nominated, though, and if there are two nominations, more power to it.

        love the fetus, hate the child

        by Raggedy Ann on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 03:26:10 PM PST

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      •  The appeal process can only look at the (1+ / 0-)
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        discovery and documents presented at trial. New evidence does not get to be presented.

        And the US military has refused all the defense's requests with the exception of 2 minor parts. So, no, the SCOTUS review will not be a full and complete analysis of the underlying dynamics of Manning's prosecution.

        And, we don't know for a fact who supplied what documents. There were many leakers and whistleblowers to Wikileaks.


        One may live without bread, but not without roses.
        ~Jean Richepin
        Bread & Roses

        by bronte17 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 04:29:59 PM PST

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        •  bronte - I think that is the challenge (0+ / 0-)

          for the prosecution, to prove that Manning released classified documents. They don't have to prove that he released them to Wiki. only that he released them. There are some possible lesser charges, if they can't prove the big one. I am not holding out much hope. The Army wants to fry Manning and everyone who sits on the panel knows it.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 04:43:22 PM PST

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          •  Well then, he is a political prisoner (1+ / 0-)
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            and everyone knows it. He's been tortured, abused and misused. Because he has a pure heart and the best of intentions.

            So, the Nobel Prize may begin the opening of eyes so that more will speak up against the evil and fear that have incapacitated rule of law and our sense of balance for far too long.


            One may live without bread, but not without roses.
            ~Jean Richepin
            Bread & Roses

            by bronte17 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 07:28:06 PM PST

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            •  bronte - let's see the evidence first (1+ / 0-)
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              If Manning did in fact release tens of thousands of classified documents he did something very grave and deserves a long prison sentence. However, if he didn't, but is still convicted, then I think you could make a case that he is a political prisoner.

              "let's talk about that"

              by VClib on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 07:55:39 PM PST

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              •  The argument keeps going around (0+ / 0-)

                but you know the charge has been made... and documented by criminal computer experts... that Adrian Lamo tampered with Manning's chat logs.

                Among other things.

                As for the release of the classified material, it's a matter of selectivity for whom we apply the law and for whom we do not.

                Scooter Libby and Karl Rove walked. And their deliberate evil manipulation and exposure caused decades of work to be destroyed and very valuable lives to be lost. Critical work to maintain world peace was lost.

                Shoulders were simply shrugged over it. Last I checked... another of the consequences from the deliberate Rove/Cheney/Libby slip was an illegal war that had cost us over $6 trillion, 5k dead soldiers, 1M+ dead Iraqis and untold sorrows to yet come.

                Yet, this issue with Manning has been carefully choreographed to build outrage over "national security" and any other feigned "horrible characteristics" that Manning could possibly possess.

                And there is no comparison.


                One may live without bread, but not without roses.
                ~Jean Richepin
                Bread & Roses

                by bronte17 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 08:56:12 PM PST

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