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  •  we are much kinder than our rulers (1+ / 0-)
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    The American people are capable of savagery, but most of them were ready for a better way of living quite a while ago. All they needed was a little leadership. Now, they're even more ready, but now, we're in deep shit and nobody knows exactly what to do. With both the government and the money men refusing to help--in fact, actively obstructing our attempts to change things to the tune of thousands of LE deployed against unarmed protesters while only ten FBI agents are assigned to the mortgage fraud--it's very difficult to know what to do. So people work on what's in front of them, the best they can.  If we were another country, we'd rise up in violent revolt, but we really really want to find another way.

    This shit is hard, but we're trying. I see what's wrong with my people, I see their faults. But I'd trust them over the people running things now any day.

    Being ignored is the difference between being a one percenter and an American.--sweeper

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sun Feb 12, 2012 at 09:44:48 AM PST

    •  I know we are kinder than our rulers but (1+ / 0-)
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      we really do not have power.  I want people to really look at who we were and what we are and what we need to do to as President Obama says, Adhere to our better angels.

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Sun Feb 12, 2012 at 09:51:32 AM PST

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      •  the government is supposed to work for the people (1+ / 0-)
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        look at the OWS. People actually listen to Fox News ... can't you see how blind Americans have become? So reliant on what other people tell them that they can't or won't think for themselves ...

        Obama is no angel ... he bows to the GOP too much in an attempt to work with them  ... but if I had to choose between the lesser evils - I guess I will go with Obama

    •  I respectfully disagree with you (1+ / 0-)
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      the majority of Americans turn away so they do not have to face the truth
      There are so much things that the very thought of people gladly close their eyes and say - so long as it's working - they do not want to know the specifics.

      Personally I am looking for truth now - and it has not made me a happier individual ... Are we kinder than our leaders when we allow them to do as they wish without accountability? Are we a better people if we do not act as our leaders do? I say we are a pathetic people to allow such idiots like what is on the GOP to even run for office let alone be stuck with having to vote for or against one of them as our president.

      Do you really think that any of those hypocritical SOB's belong in a position as the president of the USA? The fact that any of them would be taken seriously disgusts me to no end - and it was the wonderful AMERICAN PEOPLE that put them there. They are at least in part to blame.

      No we are worse than our leaders for looking the other way and to think their judgemental self-righteousness could ever be acceptable as a way to lead the American people!

      •  this is not a democracy (0+ / 0-)

        And has not been for some time. Do you really believe that "we put them there?"  

        The choices have been controlled for us for decades. Even now, there's lots of people on here who advocate for the lesser of two evils approach.  The American people, including me, trusted our system as it was being bought out from under us, and listened to those who said we were asking for too much and should really compromise and stop acting like naive kids. We supported the lesser of two evils because we thought it was the best we could do. But things kept getting worse and worse and by the time we collectively figured out our political leaders weren't going to make a stand for us and weren't going to make a change, we were in a whole pile of trouble with no easy way out.

        My people have their faults, among which are gullibility, self-centeredness, materialism, an odd relationship with violence, and a persistent belief in meritocracy that's only now starting to crack. But they are also kind, persistent, generous, hardworking and incorrigibly optimistic. They are neither liars nor are they evil.  And if you think the leadership of this country, whether the politicians or those who stand in the shadows behind them, reflect the character of the people, I can only say you must have some terrible neighbors.

        Being ignored is the difference between being a one percenter and an American.--sweeper

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sun Feb 12, 2012 at 12:35:46 PM PST

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      •  No, we are not worse than the leaders and (0+ / 0-)

        I will tell you why.  We do not have the power to appoint judges that  hand people like GWB the presidency.  We are not worse than leadership because we do not have the power to put people in jail for breaking laws when people protest..a right.  We do not have power short of revolution to change how banks and corporations operate.  People are brainwashed from the cradle to the grave and have to seek truth and know not how to do it if not taught.  The church deceives and the power is in the administrators of the church.  The people are waking up but still want to believe,  It is hard to watch everything you thought you knew seem so well, savage.  We have been sheltered and blinded and one has to really really seek answers and truth to obtain some sort of reality.  People in power get blinded by money or power or greed.  They are sick in their souls and sick in their bodies and mostly sick in their minds.  People isolate and only hear the good and tune out tht bad because no one wants to hear that we have become our own worse enemy.  No wants to hear Mama and Daddy have been so wrong so long.  That takes courage.  No one wants to believe their lives are basically built on lies.  I think the president got in the oval office and found out his power was limited without help from the other leaders and the real power is in the media but Toyko rose is alive and well in the Limbaughs, Becks, Fox.  How will people know any different if they are not educated any different?  I do have good neighbors but some Are ignorant and can't handle the truth as in For a Few Good Men.   If you never had the lights turned off or been hungry or even disabled, you can't fully understand the plight.  It is sad but I feel the majority of people want what is best but only after their have walked in some really uncomfortable shoes.  they don't get it and they don't seek it and no body is talking but ducking and covering .  

        We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

        by Vetwife on Sun Feb 12, 2012 at 06:54:05 PM PST

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        •  You've described... (2+ / 0-)
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          "The Matrix".

          And so we're all approaching the point where we have to make a decision:

          The red pill or the blue pill?

          That's what my DKos signature is all about.

          We're resigned to our collective fate because we've been conditioned to believe that this is as good as it gets.

          by Richard Cranium on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 06:10:52 AM PST

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        •  I'm learning (1+ / 0-)
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          No wants to hear Mama and Daddy have been so wrong so long.  That takes courage.  No one wants to believe their lives are basically built on lies.
          Before I met you I was one of those who would turn my head rather than take a closer look. Why do you think I am giving you so much credit for changing my life forever? You have gotten me out of that blindly following BS. Like in the movie "They Live"

          I was not like you before - I was such a pacifist and a pansy. I didn't wanna rock the boat - I was a COWARD!! I am not so much of a coward these days - but if we live our lives as a cowaed - how are we better than our leaders who are moved more by money that the people they are put in power to protect??

          No ... I am sorry - we usually agree on most things Amanda - but being a coward doesn't make us good .. and certainly not better than our leaders ... We choose who our master is .. we will serve one and hate the other ... any who is not actively seeking truth is not worthy ... and if we know the truth and do not fight for it then we are luke warm and will be spit out. Faith without works is dead ... I hope you understand where I am comming from Amanda - We must choose this day who we will serve... as we both have said - the line is drawn - pick a side and stand ... we have to fight - if we do not fight - then we are against the truth ... and the majority (not all) do not seek truth, do not stand and fight for what is right - not even in prayer - all can pray ... but most will stand still and do nothing and hide their tallen ...

          We are here to live and resist the devil, stand for God, truth and love ... CHew bubble gum and kick @ss ... Amanda ...I love you with all my heart - but I despised the weak woman that I was - and want to learn to fight more and more ...resist the devil more and more ...

          I am still not where I want to be - but I will keep taking steps toward the warrior I know God made me to be ... you have been instrumental on my journey. I am more comparing who I was, to who I will be (and who I am)

          To blindly trust the people in power is so foolish ...we have to get our prioities in order - seriously

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