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  •  Did you need some links for that? (1+ / 0-)
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    Not sure what your WTF is all about.

    But, basically, environmentally speaking, there is no difference whether we allow the XL pipeline to be built or not - at least on a global scale.

    •  this has been replied to (10+ / 0-)

      already on this thread, and a thousand times before. the opposition to the proposed Canadian pipeline to the Pacific and hence China is at least as strong as in the U.S.--yes, given a decade the Canadians may figure out a way to get tarsands oil out in increased quantities. But if, in a decade, the planet hasn't woken up to climate issues, then the question is moot. In the meantime, fight, don't proactively give up

      •  So wait.. (0+ / 0-)

        You are saying if we build this pipeline, the Canadians are unable to fill it with tar sands oil?

        You are saying the Canadians do not have the technology currently to fill the pipeline?  And may not for a decade or more? If so, then what is the environmental concern?

        Please respond.. I am curious.

        •  You misread it (3+ / 0-)
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          SouthernLiberalinMD, elwior, RF

          The phrase "to get tarsands oil out in increased quantities" doesn't mean getting bitumen out of the ground; it means getting bitumen out of the country.

          He's saying that if the pipeline ISN'T built, the Canadians will have a hard time exporting bitumen in the large quantities that could flow through the pipeline.  

          •  And the Canadians are saying they will (0+ / 0-)

            build a pipeline to the west coast - Vancouver or thereabouts.  No problem exporting directly to China from there.

            •  and the opposition in Canada (7+ / 0-)

              has so far been highly successful in blocking that pipeline.

              •  Oil money can generate (0+ / 0-)

                never ending obtuse angles for argument...

                So wait...
                Butt what if...
                Butt I thought...
                Those  precursors and many more like them are of course annoyingly insensitive entries chosen and intended to confuse, malign and detract thru feigned ignorance-

                Cheers and Thank you for your book in the eighties and your energy now, toward and for the benefit of all-

                Anyone reading this can imagine energy created beyond the little tidbits of obtuse nonsensical fear thrown about like a dogmatic prayer designed with intent to detract souls from achieving a deepened mindset toward and for the benefit of all-

                Thank you, Bill-


                Evidence that contradicts the ruling belief system is held to extraordinary standards, while evidence that entrenches it is uncritically accepted. -Carl Sagan

                by RF on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 06:37:03 AM PST

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      •  Are the 5 existing tar sands pipelines (0+ / 0-)

        already running at full capacity?

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