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  •  real semantics (0+ / 0-)

    Nobody thinks "teabagger" is a sexual innuendo anymore.

    "Santorum" was always kind of an inside joke. I f he gets the nomination or a place on the ticket...people who bring this joke up will be asked BY DEMOCRATS to kindly shut up.

    For the record: it's time for us to wish Mitt well. You never know what's going to happen in life, and there's no percentage in having a crazy religious person be in a position to become President because of some weird series of unforeseen events.

    •  sorry (0+ / 0-)

      I wuill continue to root for the unelectable candidate over the one that does better in the polls.

      Right now, that's Santorum.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 08:46:26 AM PST

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      •  no nominee is unelectable (1+ / 0-)
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        •  sure they are (0+ / 0-)

          you think sarah palin will be president? Giuliani? Fred Thompson? herman cain?

          good luck with that.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 09:22:08 AM PST

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          •  next to the definition of cliché (1+ / 0-)
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            None of the people you mention were nominated for the Presidency.

            My point is perfectly simple, and amply clarified in my comments this a.m. It's also implied in the definition of "nominee".

            Number crunching would be perfect if you didn't have to have all those words around it, wouldn't it?

            "Good luck with that" - good grief, you mean. What are you, some sort of undifferentiated bundle of Internet memes, or what?

            •  you mean instead of vague angst? (0+ / 0-)

              santorum is unelectable and I hope he is the nominee.

              so does the WH, but both they and i expect romney.

              "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

              by Greg Dworkin on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 11:23:21 AM PST

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              •  It wouldn't be vague (0+ / 0-)

                if it happened.

                Good definition of "learning from history", though.

                •  want quantitative? (0+ / 0-)

                  In the end, we don't pick the nominee, they do. And how electable Santorum really is will be answered if he gets the nomination.

                  As for quantitative, nate has this today and a Sun NYT mag article:

                  Given Mr. Obama’s current approval ratings and consensus forecasts on the economy, he rates as about a 60 percent favorite to win the popular vote against Mitt Romney, with somewhat higher chances against any of the other Republicans running for the nomination.
                  http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/...

                  Santorum's chance of winning is less than 25%. That's pretty bad. And it's before he's well known. let's see where he stands after MI, not against Romney but against Obama, after he is better defined.

                  Historical models fail because none of them are 2012, or Santorum. But if you want to look to the past, look at Bob Dole.

                  "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                  by Greg Dworkin on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 12:30:58 PM PST

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          •  But Santorum is not Palin, Perry or even Newt (0+ / 0-)

            in multiple ways, he is not.  He doesn't have their type of baggage.  No real scandals, no crimes, no groping 10 women,  no multiple marriages, no half terms as a Governor, no toxic and fatal slips of the tongue, debate skills are worthy of their own personal comedy hour such as Perry etc.  

             The baggage he does have is simply gourmet prime aged steak to his base...he is going to fire them up and that is Romney's fatal flaw. In the general, with a fired up tea party and fickle independents, Rick could be a very dangerous thing, especially if we say he is unelectable and dismiss him as such.

          •  What I'm most interest in seeing is for the (0+ / 0-)

            totally unacceptable gop candidates to wind up beating one another to a pulp and for the gop to further descend into total chaos.
            I think we will win the Presidential race, but I won't take it for granted, and I want to see us get the House back.
            I want us to get a whole new generation of committed voters and more women candidates, and robust local organizations and networks.
            The works.
            I'm ready to see the country go forward for a while.

    •  I'm guilty of using tea bagger. (0+ / 0-)

      True, I don't even think of why I use it anymore...I just call them "baggers".

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