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  •  tough sell, though (0+ / 0-)

    It's tough to convince people that they should be compelled to pay for others.  

    •  That is not the only alternative nt (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Seems pretty easy to me. (0+ / 0-)

      Most everyone here is paying for a few rich capitalists already.

      "I think the Obama campaign would be taking this populist-sounding tack even if Occupy had never happened." -- Paul Street

      by Cassiodorus on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 05:06:23 PM PST

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      •  why should i want (0+ / 0-)

        To pay for any of them?

        •  well you already are (1+ / 0-)
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          IvoryWine

          and will continue to be as long as this economic system exists

          •  David Graeber (3+ / 0-)
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            joe wobblie, IvoryWine, david graeber

            One quick question...I know some fans and such sometimes create accounts under famous names to get attention, so I just want to ask if this is the REAL David Graeber...in which case I am a HUGE fan and you have been an extreme influence on my worldview; thank you for everything.

            In addition, to Johnny Wurster, everyone else is paying for you too.  People seldom realize that when they complain about having to pay for others; it is a reciprocal process.  In addition, why shouldn't you want to help other people out?  If you value communities, especially safe ones, you should certainly want your fellow neighbors and such to be living decent lives.  

            People are biologically driven towards altruism and naturally want to live in groups.  Even if you support capitalism (personally, I'm an anarchist) I am really skeptical that you want to live in a society that doesn't value community.  If you want to live in a community, it is expected that everyone pitch in.

            In the end, a safe community is good for you too.  

            •  oh thanks for saying (2+ / 0-)
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              croppingbeef, IvoryWine

              yes I am me.
              wow, I'm not used to being called a famous name. I certainly wasn't when I first created the Daily Kos account. Funny how things change.
              I liked the choice of quote.

            •  Biological Altruism _ An anarchists' dream (1+ / 0-)
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              An act of altruism can be very heroic!  E.g., jumping on a grenade
              (a petard for an anarchist)...
              Such altruism is recognized in the animal kingdom, even in cellular slime moulds.
              But humans are also very greedy and territorial!
              If genes could be so manipulated, would we have an anarchists' dream world,
              or a huge colony of ants or bees?   ( to bee, or not to bee...)
                Perhaps you are interest in the anarchist Peter Kropotkin?

              ! The swinistic greed and racial hatred of the American ruling elite is abysmal !

              by joe wobblie on Tue Feb 21, 2012 at 11:41:04 AM PST

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