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  •  It's not Democrats spending hundreds of millions (0+ / 0-)

    ...to propagandize against global warming, etc. etc. etc.

    LOL

    The only problem with the Democrats, such as they are, is the huge amount of very considerable pressure they are presently subject to, especially while subject to right wing majorities in the House and Senate (despite public opinion diametrically opposed to virtually every aspect of Republican program), to manipulate, coerce, co-opt, and yes, corrupt the Democrats...

    ALL of which impetus emanates from the right, the Republicans (and Blue Dogs) and their Chamber of Commerce sponsors.

    Purge and suppress the right, and those pressures CAN and WILL be very substantially mitigated, and even eliminated, such that the popular democratic will can prevail.

    It's as simple as that.

    Without recognizing and acknowledging that realpolitik, and getting on the bus to purge and suppress the right, you are ultimately just blowing it out your ass, with all your obstreperous righteous indignation and angst.

    Or worse, actually working for the enemy, whether you realize it, like it, or want it to be so, or not...

    Nobody "likes" to be called either a freakin' pig, or their dupe, but there it is, bubba.

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    by Radical def on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 12:33:31 PM PST

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    •  Who's working with enemy? You are paranoid (0+ / 0-)

      or delusional.

      As I have said several times, yes, I will help you pack D.C. with Dems.

      JUST DON'T EXPECT THEM TO RAMP UP IN TIME TO SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING.

      If you anything about it, we have to cap emissions within 3 or 4 years; then, another year or two after that, we have to begin rapidly reducing emissions all the way down to an 80% reduction by 2050.

      This government hasn't been able to change direction on this in over twenty years. There is no freakin' way any number of Democrats in this system will turn this boat in time.

      That's not a knock on Dems, per se. This system is fucked, at least for now.

      The only way we deal with is if we march and make it happen ourselves. Sitting back and hoping the Dems can wave a magic wand over DC is suicide.

      This, too, shall pass. Just like the last global ecological cataclysm. C'est la vie, dude. Take a chill pill, recite the serenity prayer, go with the flow and the moderates into that "goodnight".

      by Words In Action on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 01:57:19 PM PST

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    •  You are not going to purge and supress the right (0+ / 0-)

      in D.C. in one election or two or three or four. I know, I've been at this for decades.

      Next yeay, no matter what, you will still be complaining about the fact that the right and the blue dogs are stopping us from solving globale warming, even when there are fewer of them. And I won't, because that's exactly what I expect. And you'll be screaming about how important it is we get more Dems in the NEXT cycle. and I'll say that won't really matter on this score because no matter what they aren't going to cap emissions in 2015 without a mutiny. And you'll keep cursing Republicans and apologizing for Dems all the way until the planet fries. Meanwhile, I will do everything possible minimize the Republican threat, maximize the Democratic opportunity and force them and their plutocratic bosses to get on board or get the hell outta the way. And that will go for you too.

      This, too, shall pass. Just like the last global ecological cataclysm. C'est la vie, dude. Take a chill pill, recite the serenity prayer, go with the flow and the moderates into that "goodnight".

      by Words In Action on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 02:03:29 PM PST

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