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  •  The problem is that politics requires majorities (4+ / 0-)
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    Laurence Lewis, boophus, Mayfly, SaraBeth

    No problem can even be defined with an agreement among enough people that it "ripens" into something to deal with.
    No solution can be proposed unless it can anticipate a majority vote.

    THis is why the political system as a whole moves as slowly as it does, even when you consider the scale of global warming.

    In fact, most people are only concerned with their local issues, and if they cannot relate them to larger national or international ones, they won't pay much attention.

    It requires an ability to spend time thinking and reading and considering and most people don't have time for this or won't invest time in this.

    Thus, since global warming as an issue has only ripened into something to deal with in national politics recently, the problem is to keep on pushing the urgency.

    When you talk about smething like billions of people, a lot of people just don't get that.  When you talk about the impact that billions of people using gasoline or coal have, really it is a reach.

    I would advocate for as much repetition in as many forms and in as many places as possible.  

    At the moment, there are probably more people in the denail camp or the uncertain camp than there are in the camp that is sure we need to take this with all due urgency.  That is what has to change before the political system will change.

    However, it looks like that is slowly happening.

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Sun Feb 19, 2012 at 01:55:34 PM PST

    •  In the US, 60% believe there is doubt, after many (2+ / 0-)
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      SaraBeth, adrianrf

      years of denial marketing by the corporate media. In 2007-2008 it was much easier to say that the debate was over than it is today.

      Internationally, there is widespread majority agreement, which is why you see so much more support for Kyoto than in the US (and Australia)

      Which is not to say that Kyoto is anything close to sufficient, but it showed an acceptance of the problem and an agreement around the need to act.

      This, too, shall pass. Just like the last global ecological cataclysm. C'est la vie, dude. Take a chill pill, recite the serenity prayer, go with the flow and the moderates into that "goodnight".

      by Words In Action on Sun Feb 19, 2012 at 04:32:44 PM PST

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