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  •  But the people behind him aren't his only voters (1+ / 0-)
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    He's running for the GOP nomination for a district including Mohave & Yavapai counties, Apache Junction & North Yuma.  If he doesn't lose for being gay, he loses for being with a Mexican.  (The last sentence does NOT describe the state as a whole, but AZ-4, IMHO.)  

    •  Babeu puts the ball in Romney's court, and Rick's (2+ / 0-)
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      I agree that Babeu's being gay doesn't by itself mean anything about his job performance. Tthreatening your lovers with the power of your office would matter, but it is hard to say what is going to come of that.

      I wonder how Mitt and Ricky are going to play this.  He was Mitt's supporter, so does Mitt embrace him? Ignore him? Scorn him?  Since Mitt has no principles all that will matter is the public reaction to Babeu.

      Rick 'man-on-dog' Santorum is opposed to gays  anywhere, anytime, so how does he react to this sudden 'Gay is OK' kumbaya from the AZ republicans? Kind of off-message for him.

      You just can't make this stuff up.

    •  I agree completely on both those points (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm interested to see how it plays out.

      The one fact that I think is getting swept away is that the reason the ex-boyfriend was so pissed off and vindictive -- which he was -- was because he caught Babeu cheating on him and lying to him about being exclusive. So Babeu's good-guy image should be tarnished a bit by that, in terms of his integrity. I think that part will be lost in the aftermath of the presser, he did a good job avoiding getting into that part of it as "personal."

      My first thought upon hearing this story was that he's toast, for exactly the reasons you said. He will lose some voters, certainly, just for being gay, and some for his specific behavior that they disapprove of, and some especially because the b/f was from Mexico. His anti-Mexican creds might be dinged by his long term relationship with a guy from Mexico (and then messing up the relationship so badly the guy ended up going public), but in a way they love this stuff, it gives them the ability to say see, he's not racist! His boyfriend was Mexican! He just hates illegals... So I don't know if they will actually punish him for that or not.

      As for whether the ex b/f was actually threatened, I don't know. I've read all the reporting and source articles out there, and my take at this point is, there were what can be interpreted as "veiled threats" -- but no evidence of any overt threat of deportation. As for what the lawyers supposedly said verbally to each other, who knows? It's unclear what exactly happened, but the ex admits he was angry and he did this to hurt him, because he was hurt. So that doesn't help his case, in the public mind I'd imagine.

      Anyway, it's a strange event, I'm curious to see the fallout now. But in any case, it's excellent to see prominent and strong republicans standing with him and speaking strongly in saying his orientation doesn't make any difference to their view of him, his qualifications as a leader, etc. and his private life is not an issue for them. That's a good day.

      •  everyone's forgetting Jim Kolbe R-CD8 for at (1+ / 0-)
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        least two terms after being outed...

        the gay just isn't that huge a deal here for the most part...

        Now if anything really comes out of the abuse of power stuff, then nail him to the wall but otherwise, I'm seeing a lot of borderline shit here even.....

        Vaya con Dios Don Alejo
        I want to die a slave to principles. Not to men.
        Emiliano Zapata

        by buddabelly on Sat Feb 18, 2012 at 01:27:09 PM PST

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        •  True, but Kolbe was in Tucson area, and he was (0+ / 0-)

          considered a moderate republican, if memory serves. I was young and not politically involved at that time, but I recall that no one cared he was gay and he was a moderate in a moderate area of the state.

          Also I think in the context of the current national GOP and it's culture-wars, anti-gay drum beating is loud, so it's likely assumed to be a big problem. Especially since he is, or was, apparently courting tea-party types, not known for their tolerance. So I think he has a different constituency than Kolbe did, and in a different time and environment. So, we'll see... like I said, it's interesting. Romney's campaign should have kept him on board, IMO. I don't think this is going to hurt him all the much in the long run, after watching his presser.  

      •  You Left Out The Most Damaging Part For Paul (0+ / 0-)

        politically, imho -- his web photos, posted internet description of his attributes, and his surfing experience in picking up strangers for anonymous gay sex.

        "I never met a man I didn't like." Will Rogers - American Redneck

        by chuco35 on Sat Feb 18, 2012 at 07:23:13 PM PST

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