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  •  Many many people pay for health insurance (0+ / 0-)

    out of after-tax income.

    You don't because the employer pays out of his income.

    If I make $1000 more than you a month but pay $1000 of my income for health insurance that you get 'free', I am going to pay $62 more monthly in FICA and significantly more in income tax. Why do you think that is fair?

    It's not how it should be but it is how it is. Your employer is paying for your insurance as a 'cost of doing business', just as he may pay for your travel (even if you do some sight-seeing) or for your uniforms or for your car expenses.

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    by Clem Yeobright on Sat Feb 18, 2012 at 07:18:00 PM PST

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    •  Fair? (1+ / 0-)
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      Calamity Jean

      Who said fairness was any part of our setup?  It's a mess.

      Fairness would simply be single payer, administered by the government.

      But the fact that you choose a job in which you pay for your insurance in after tax dollars and I choose one that has employer coverage as part of the defined benefits that are attendant upon my job contract has nothing to do with fairness, it's simply the choice each of us makes as to whether or not compensation received for our work is worth taking the job.  If you want to pay more FICA and income tax, that's your choice, when you choose that job.

      •  That sounds just like Mittens! (0+ / 0-)

        We both have the same income and you are content to pay lower taxes than I, BUT you nevertheless object to the condition that permits that, i.e., that your employer writes your insurance off as a cost of business and mine doesn't and you are unwilling to accept the consequences. Nice.

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        by Clem Yeobright on Sat Feb 18, 2012 at 09:53:28 PM PST

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        •  I'm refusing to 'accept the consequences'? (1+ / 0-)
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          Calamity Jean

          My ideal is, and always has been single payer.  Barring that, I think it would be nice if employers weren't total dicks and squeezing every last concession out of employees to get that absolute best possible profit while letting their employees get sick and die for lack of insurance.

          Given that I know that nowadays that's a hard thing to find, I'm advocating doing your homework and actually trying to find the jobs that still do offer group health insurance plans.

          And that somehow makes me the 'bad guy'?  Are we talking past each other somehow, or am I in bizarro world?  Is there some axiom to your argument that I'm simply not understanding?

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