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  •  Isn't education one of the... (6+ / 0-)

    important planks of the democratic party?  WTF  Look my kids are grown and I have no grandkids nor will I ever have any BUT education has been at the top of my important list for as long as I can remember.  To all the teachers posting here I have a question for you, please?  Does teaching to the test work??  I ask because I've had a problem with this since NCLB.  I myself probably would have not done well and I graduated with a 3+ grade point.  BUT I tend to learn better by discussion and sharing ideas, sometimes by "hands on".  I can't tell you how much I've learned since I joined this community, mostly because of the "sharing" and "discussing".  Thanks to all you teachers out there that truely do care.

    •  Listening to my sister... (4+ / 0-)

      who is a elementary school teacher... No it doesn't, especially in Texas. your always behind the 8-ball.  And trying to instill advanced skills into the disadvantaged kids always puts you in a bad light to the school district - a trouble maker, etc..  

      Those national tests we took as kids were supposed to be used to find out where your weakness were so the teacher could find ways to help you.  Now they are used to beat teachers over the head.

      Silence = Consent. Don't be silent any longer

      by doingbusinessas on Sun Feb 19, 2012 at 01:08:23 PM PST

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    •  Define "the best" (1+ / 0-)
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      Do you mean the top of the class?

      Here, for me, as an educator, this is a problem of class size. With smaller class sizes, I can teach to ALL levels equally. That's one of my greatest arguments for keeping smaller class sizes. I teach for love more than money: I don't make enough to even remotely cover my expenses and am lucky to also be married to another teacher who can. Because of this freedom, a pretty unusual and inverse freedom, I have chosen for the past two years to work with "at risk" college freshman (after previously working with 300-400 levels). Most of my students now are 1st gen, ELL/MLL, have learning disabilities, or their NCLB public schools inadequately prepared them for college. It can be a challenge. So it depends.

      It's a balance and a personal ethical choice for every teacher whom I've ever spoken with. That must be true for lower ed teachers as well.

      You might want to re-think those ties. - Erin Brockovich

      by mahakali overdrive on Sun Feb 19, 2012 at 01:18:24 PM PST

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    •  No, teaching to the test does not work! (3+ / 0-)
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      Since it's become what's demanded of us, teachers do it.  

      Years ago, we were concerned with teaching kids to be well-rounded individuals with critical thinking skills.  Not anymore!

      The focus is on the very specific skills required to score decently on the test.

      It's really sad, and it makes it difficult to put joy into learning.

      Stand Up! Keep Fighting! Paul Wellstone

      by RuralLiberal on Sun Feb 19, 2012 at 02:02:59 PM PST

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      •  RuralLiberal: (0+ / 0-)

        Thanks for the response.  It was the critical thinking skills that I was most concerned about.  Not to mention I wonder how much kids retain when they are basically just learning to take a test?  I never did like that idea.

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